May 28,
2014
HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS
Vol. XLVII No. 34
The House met at 2:00 p.m.
MR.
SPEAKER (Wiseman):
Order, please!
Admit strangers.
Before we start proceedings today I want to acknowledge
some special guests that we have with us.
In the Speaker's gallery we have Dr. Lawrence Newhook with his wife Judy.
They are from Meadville, Pennsylvania.
They are accompanied today by Lawrence's son, Dr.
Timothy Newhook, and his wife, Dr. Alexandra Newhook.
They are from Virginia. They
are going to be visiting the William Henry Newhook Memorial Clinic in
Whitbourne, which is named after Dr. Newhook.
Welcome to Newfoundland and Labrador, and welcome to
the gallery.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR.
SPEAKER:
I
think we will hear a little more about their visit from the Premier in a few
moments.
I am also very pleased today to welcome to the public
galleries Ms Cyrilda Poirier – and I apologize for the mispronunciation if that
is the case. Cyrilda is the
President of the Newfoundland and Labrador Francophonie Federation.
We will learn a little more about the federation in a few moments as well
from the minister.
Welcome to the gallery.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR.
SPEAKER:
Her
French will be much better than mine.
Statements by Members
MR.
SPEAKER:
Today we will members' statements from the Member for the District of St. John's
East; the Member for the District of St. John's South; the Member for the
District of Torngat Mountains; the Member for the District of Cape St. Francis;
the Member for the District of Baie Verte – Springdale; and the Member for the
District of Fortune Bay – Cape La Hune.
The hon. the Member for the District of St. John's
East.
MR.
MURPHY:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I rise today to congratulate Mary Queen of Peace, a
congregation and a school in my district celebrating their fiftieth anniversary
this year.
Mary Queen of Peace grew out of St. Raphael's Parish.
In the early 1960s, one new building housed both the church and the
school. The first pastor assigned,
in 1964, was Father Michael Connolly.
The first Mass in the present church was celebrated in December 1984, and
the building was dedicated on June 21, 1985.
I am proud myself to be a graduate of Mary Queen of
Peace, and can speak for the dedication, then and now, of the teachers and staff
at the school. Mary Queen of Peace
Parish continues to thrive under the Very Reverend Frank Puddister, who has been
the priest there since 2006. The
people, who are the core of any church, are exceptional, actively participating
in congregational and community events and programs.
Archbishop Martin Currie conducted the Celebration Mass
on February 23. Other events this
year include a spring concert, a Parish Mission, and, of course, a dance later
on.
I ask all hon. members to join me in congratulating
Mary Queen of Peace Parish in St. John's on their fiftieth anniversary.
Thank you very much.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR.
SPEAKER:
Before I acknowledge the Member for St. John's South, it was just brought to my
attention that we are honoured as well to have another guest in our galleries
today, a former member of this House, a former member of the Cabinet in
Newfoundland and Labrador, and a former MP and Cabinet minister in the House of
Commons: Mr. John Efford.
Welcome, Sir.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR.
SPEAKER:
It
has gotten a lot tamer since you left.
The hon. the Member for St. John's South.
MR.
OSBORNE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I stand today to recognize Barbara Ivany who, just this
past week, has retired from her thirty-five-and-a-half year career of dedicated
service in long-term care.
I have known Barbara for a number of years in her
capacity as social worker and administrator at Saint Luke's Homes – that, I
might add, is one of the better long-term care homes in the city.
Barbara is an exceptional individual with an outstanding record of
service. She has worked tirelessly
and has contributed significantly to the quality of life and care for the
residents of Saint Luke's and their families.
To Barbara, being an administrator was more than just a
job. Her dedication was evident by
the many improvements to make life better for the residents of Saint Luke's.
Some of the many accomplishments that she had were: the
establishment of a Resident Council and family support group; opening of a Tea
Room for residents and their visitors; the opening of the Mildred Boyce Cottage,
for the use of out-of-town family members; the building of private rooms with
private bathrooms; the building of a Friendship Centre for use of cottage and
BMM residents; the building of a gazebo to encourage outdoor activities; the
introduction of the Angel Care Program and Music Therapy Program; the expansion
of the Adult Day program; and the planning for a new supportive living complex
to be built on Old Topsail Road beginning this summer.
I ask all members of the House to recognize Barbara and
her significant contribution to Saint Luke's Homes.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR.
SPEAKER:
The
hon. the Member for Torngat Mountains.
MR.
EDMUNDS:
Mr.
Speaker, I rise in this hon. House today to congratulate Dr. Stacey Shiwak, an
Inuit lady from Labrador and a single mother, who recently graduated from the
Doctor of Dentistry program at Dalhousie University in Halifax.
Stacey, whose family is originally from Rigolet, was
born and raised in Happy Valley-Goose Bay and left home at the age of
twenty-three to pursue a career in dentistry.
Having completed both the dental therapy and hygiene programs at
different work terms in the North, she soon realized that the Doctor of
Dentistry was her next obvious goal.
After twenty years of training and practice, Stacey will be returning to
Labrador in June to begin her practice along the North Coast of Labrador,
a region where access to
dental care has been lacking for a long time.
Over the
years, Stacey has been committed to her Aboriginal roots, having practiced in
Nunavut, Nain, and Conne River. She
will now continue her practice in Labrador, and will be returning home with her
son Jack, who has been with her every step of the way.
Mr.
Speaker, I ask all hon. members to join me in congratulating Dr. Stacey Shiwak
on receiving her Doctorate of Dentistry.
Thank
you.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for Cape
St. Francis.
MR. K. PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I rise
in this hon. House today to recognize a group of students from St. Francis of
Assisi, in Outer Cove, and their teacher, Ms Edwina Connors.
The
kindness, giving and compassion of children have never been more evident than in
these students of St. Francis of Assisi, who have raised over $40,000 for the
Terry Fox Foundation.
Ms
Connors and the students wanted to do something different after a visit to Mile
0 where Terry Fox began his journey of hope.
Ms Connors noted there was no place to sit.
The young students came up with the idea of “The Bench”.
Along with the teachers and staff, they eagerly contributed pennies,
nickels, dimes, quarters and other fundraising to help with the fund.
By March they reached their goal of $1,250.
The bench is ordered and will be delivered on June 9.
I look
forward to joining the students and Ms Connors at the dedication of the bench at
Mile 0 along with the Mayors of Logy Bay-Middle Cove-Outer Cove and St. John's.
This
year, Ms Connors is retiring and I want to thank her for her positive influence
on the children at St. Francis of Assisi, and have an enjoyable retirement.
I ask
all members to join with me in thanking all who helped with the project “The
Bench”.
Thank
you, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the
District of Baie Verte – Springdale.
MR. POLLARD:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I rise
in this hon. House today to congratulate the 837 Northeast Squadron of the
Springdale Royal Canadian Air Cadets upon its fortieth Annual Ceremonial Review.
The
reviewing party, Constable Julie Gordon, Lion Jerry Brett, Captain Jonathan
Edison, and the Squadron personnel were very pleased of the accomplishments of
each cadet.
Dedicated parents and community supporters welcomed the parade order and were
treated to various mobile and static displays, topped off with a delicious
lunch. The ceremony also included
the presentation of various awards to the deserving recipients.
Over the
years, officers, cadets, parents, and outstanding community support have
contributed immensely to the success of the Squadron.
Through hundreds of hours of effort, cadets have demonstrated that their
motto, to serve, to learn and to advance has been emulated.
The Cadet program provides direction to many who would have otherwise
drifted, purpose to the uncertain, and recognition to the unnoticed.
Over the
past forty years, the 837 Northeast Squadron saw over 3,000 youth from the
surrounding area graduate from the program, reaping many dividends.
Their participation enabled them to mature into responsible citizens.
I ask
all hon. members to join me in applauding the efforts of the 837 Northeast
Squadron on its fortieth annual inspection.
Thank
you very much.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for
Fortune Bay – Cape La Hune.
MS PERRY:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I rise
in this hon. House today to deliver more accolades to very talented individuals
from my district who participated in the 49th Kiwanis Music Festival.
There were so many, Mr. Speaker, I could not get them all in my last
statement.
Thanks
to music instructors Kendra and Whitney Willcott-Benoit, Lauren Burke, Lesley
Sheppard, Robin Power, Tammy Rae Garden, and Valerie Coombs for fostering such
exceptional talent.
For
their excellent performances, I would like to congratulate from Conne River,
Alaina Joe, Cassidy Lambert, Grant McDonald, Zoe MacDonald, and the Joe family;
and from Harbour Breton, Rhianna Sheppard.
From Bay
d'Espoir Academy, the Grades 4, 5, and 6s all excelled in their choral speeches,
and I commend the Grade 6 Recorder Ensemble for demonstrating their exceptional
skills.
In
addition to youth mentioned in my last member's statement, there were also
outstanding performances by Brianna Hoskins, Kennedy Willcott, Emma Collier,
Garrison George, Liam Murray, Aisha George, Jade Rose, Reanna George, Kailee
Pink, Kendra Willcott-Benoit, Natasha Hunt, and Barika Sutton.
You are
all shining stars, and I certainly look forward to your accomplishments at the
fiftieth annual Central Newfoundland Kiwanis Festival next year.
I ask
all members of this House to join me in extending congratulations to these
amazingly talented individuals as they continue their musical journey.
Thank
you, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Statements by Ministers.
Statements by
Ministers
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER MARSHALL:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
As we
continue to advance the Honour 100 initiative in commemoration of those who
served so valiantly in the Great War, I rise today to celebrate the legacy of a
medical pioneer, magistrate and a solider, whose contributions to the community
and the lives of his patients continue to ripple out today, more than fifty
years after his passing.
Dr.
William H. Newhook was born in Harbour Breton in 1892; he was the youngest of
eleven children. He attended school
at the Methodist College in St. John's and then he became a teacher in Bonne
Bay, but his true calling was in medicine.
Dr.
Newhook did pre-medical studies at Mount Allison before moving to McGill
University to study medicine, but his studies were interrupted by the Great War.
Like so many other Newfoundlanders and Labradorians, William Newhook
stepped forward to serve.
Interrupting his medical studies, he enlisted with the Canadian Army Medical
Corps and he served as a sergeant overseas.
When the
war ended, he returned to McGill, finished his medical degree in 1919, and then
came back home. He practiced
medicine in Hearts Content, in Hermitage Bay and in Old Perlican before serving
as the first medical officer at the Markland Cottage Hospital.
For twenty-nine years, he was a pioneer of medicine in the Whitbourne
area.
When not
practicing medicine, he was dispensing justice as a magistrate.
He played the organ and sang at church.
He also served in community organizations and he established a
scholarship to help promising young students pursue their own dreams.
It was
not easy to practice medicine in those days.
His practice covered a very vast area.
He frequently took the speed car on the rail lines to Old Perlican –
pumping the handle the entire way – and after seeing to the needs of his
patients, repeating the grueling process to get back home again.
He regularly made house calls, taking the government boat to get to
patients isolated from medical care on small islands.
Then
came another war, the Second World War.
This time, with years of medical expertise and his own battlefield of
experience to draw upon, he trained Newfoundlanders and Labradorians in the very
skills they would need to serve in the Medical Brigades overseas, treating the
wounded as he himself had done a quarter-century before.
How many lives was Dr. Newhook responsible for saving?
No one knows, but we do know this.
We do know that whether in war or in peace, he never ceased to serve.
By the
time 1963 arrived, he had dedicated forty-four years of his life to medical
practice in this Province. On March
29, he was again at work at the hospital, ready as always to meet the needs of
others, and that is when and where his long life of service came to a sudden
end, but it was not the end of his influence.
In 1982,
when the Markland Cottage Hospital was designated a teaching clinic for Memorial
University's Medical School, the facility was renamed in his honour as the Dr.
W. H. Newhook Community Health Centre.
That rustic building continued to serve as a hospital until 1986 when the
old facility was closed and a new clinic was open, also bearing his name.
William
Newhook inspired his son Lawrence to follow in his footsteps by becoming a
medical doctor also. Lawrence in
turn inspired his own son, Timothy, to do the same.
Today,
as the Speaker indicated, we are privileged to welcome to our gallery, along
with his wife, Judy Newhook, Dr. Lawrence Newhook, his son, Dr. Newhook's
grandson, Dr. Timothy Newhook and Timothy's wife, Dr. Alexandra Newhook, all of
whom are currently practicing medicine in the United States.
They have come here to honour William's legacy.
Mr.
Speaker, I ask that all of us, as members of this House, join with the family on
behalf of the Newfoundlanders and Labradorians who we collectively represent in
celebrating the life and the legacy of Dr. William H. Newhook.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER MARSHALL:
We have jobs here for you
all.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Official Opposition.
MR. BALL:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I thank
the Premier for the advance copy of his statement.
What an awesome story, what a narrative, and a legacy that has been left
to the Newhook family. On behalf of
the Official Opposition, I want to welcome the members of the Newhook family in
the gallery today.
Dr.
Newhook certainly exemplifies the value of rural doctors in his commitment that
he made in many communities, in particular, the Whitbourne area.
If we think about this, it was an era that was much different than
providing medical services today.
When we think about the onerous task without technology, without cellphones,
without even just a transportation system that you could depend on, it was
certainly a challenging time. We
recognize that today.
He was a
well-respected doctor for the area.
So much so that not only did we get the health care centre named after him, but
then of course renamed after him. As
we talk about his commitment to medicine, today in this statement we recognize
the courage that he has shown in his commitment to peace for our country.
Just imagine interrupting your study to go to serve in the Great War, and
then to do it a second time in World War II realizing that you can contribute to
training our young men and women overseas.
His
dedication of forty-four years of medical service and volunteering in the
community to this Province is something we should all take time to celebrate and
to reflect the contribution that Dr. Newhook has made.
After his passing, it is something that his family here today can be
extremely proud of.
As we
celebrate this Honour 100 initiative I, on behalf of my colleagues, support the
recognition of Dr. William Newhook and his legacy to this great Province.
Thank
you very much.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Third Party.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr.
Speaker.
I thank
the Premier for the advance copy of his statement.
I, too, welcome the members of Dr. Newhook's family.
It is an honour to remember Dr. William Newhook who was one of the many
people whose hard work, sacrifice, and devotion to their fellow citizens made
Newfoundland and Labrador a better place.
Dr.
Newhook served the people of this Province with dedication and energy, qualities
that would have served him well in his military service.
I think of energy when I think of going up a track to Old Perlican,
pumping their way up; that is quite a hill that he would have taken.
These
qualities served him well in his military service, which was recognized, those
qualities, when the Markland Cottage Hospital was renamed in his honour.
I suspect Dr. Newhook himself never knew how many lives he saved.
I am sure to him it was the desire to serve others that motivated his
work, using his skills to aid and comfort those in distress.
I thank
the Premier for giving a greater public face to this wonderful man, who I think
is one of many who has given so much to us in the generations of our Province's
history, and which his family is continuing where they now live.
Thank
you, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Innovation, Business and Rural Development.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS SULLIVAN:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I rise
today in this hon. House to inform my colleagues that May 30 is Provincial
Francophonie Day.
Mr.
Speaker, in 1999, the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador declared May 30
Provincial Francophonie Day. May 30
is a very symbolic date for the Francophone and Acadian community in
Newfoundland and Labrador. It was on
this date in 1987 that the first sod was turned on the site of the future
Sainte-Anne School and Community Centre at Mainland on the Port au Port
peninsula, which, of course, is the traditional heart of the Province's
French-speaking community.
Depuis
cette date, Monsieur le Président, les Francophones, les Acadiens et leurs
nombreux amis et partenaires, y compris le gouvernement de
Terre-Neuve-et-Labrador, se réunissent tous les 30 mai pour lever le drapeau
franco-terre-neuvien-et-labradorien qui exprime l'esprit et la ténacité da la
communauté.
Our
government will continue its long-standing tradition of partnering with the
Francophone Federation of Newfoundland and Labrador to mark Provincial
Francophonie Day with a flag-raising ceremony just outside of these doors.
My colleague, the Member for Port au Port, and the only Francophone
Member of the House of Assembly, will represent the provincial government at
this event and will help raise the flag outside of Confederation Building.
Monsieur
le Président, les élèves de l'école Francophone locale, l'École des
Grands-Vents, montreront leur fierté communautaire en faisant flotter de petits
drapeaux et en se joignant à la chorale Francophone, La Rose des Vents, pour
chanter Ô Canada et l'hymne de Terre-Neuve.
Last
year, our government proudly signed a five-year federal-provincial agreement on
the delivery of French language services; recognized the late Emile Benoit, a
well-known musician and storyteller from the Port au Port peninsula as a Person
of Provincial Significance within the Provincial Historic Commemorations
Program; and financially supported Festival Jeunesse de l'Acadie – a Francophone
youth project held in Mainland on the Port au Port peninsula.
Mr.
Speaker, I ask all members of this hon. House to join me in congratulating the
Francophone and Acadian community of Newfoundland and Labrador for its role in
contributing to the tapestry of our Province's cultural diversity.
We can all be proud to be part of our Province's past, present, and
exciting future.
Merci,
Monsieur le Président.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for The
Straits – White Bay North.
MR. MITCHELMORE:
Mr. Speaker, I thank the
minister for an advance copy of her statement.
We, too, join the government in celebrating Francophonie Day.
Despite the small and scattered Francophone population in our Province,
we recognize that almost 25,000 Newfoundlanders and Labradorians speak both of
our official languages and that more and more children are opting for French
Immersion. We must strive to make
these opportunities more readily available.
The
French Shore Historical Society of Conche, in my district, has a 225-foot
tapestry of Jacobean linen that depicts the history of le Petite Nord.
Through assistance from the Department of Advanced Education and Skills,
they are commemorating the Treaty of Utrecht, signed 300 years ago, and will
travel the Province to places like Plaisance and Port au Port.
The Port au Port peninsula has a rich French and Acadian history and
culture, and I strive and encourage people to visit and look at the
contributions made by the late Emile Benoit.
The
Official Languages Act of 1969 really coincided with the collective rebirth of
interest in French heritage and since then, we have seen a lot of organizations
stage the socio-cultural projects for the promotion of their identity and
language.
Fédération des Francophones de Terre-Neuve et du Labrador does a great job of
promoting activities of the Francophone community on a provincial scale.
Félicitations!
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Third Party.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr.
Speaker.
I thank
the minister for the advance copy of her statement.
I am always pleased to celebrate Provincial Francophonie Day.
It is important that we recognize all the cultures that are part of the
history of Newfoundland and Labrador because for so long, we did not do so.
When I
was a teacher of French, I was a member of the Ministerial Advisory Committee on
French in the school system for then Education Minister Gerry Ottenheimer, and
at that time there was one Francophone member from the Port au Port peninsula on
that committee. We are so far ahead
of where we were at that time, Mr. Speaker.
Il me
donne beaucoup de plaisir de dire felicitations a toutes les personnes de la
langue française dans notre Province.
Merci, and congratulations to all members of the Francophone community.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Oral Questions.
Oral Questions
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Official Opposition.
MR. BALL:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Primary
health care means offering front-line services with a team of health care
professionals such as doctors, nurses, and many others.
Evidence shows that well-planned investments in primary health care can
result in significant savings and improve access.
I ask
the Premier: Given that Newfoundland and Labrador has the most expensive health
care system in Canada, why hasn't your government invested in primary health
care to improve patient access and the sustainability of our system?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I want
to join in the Leader of the Opposition's sentiment about the value of health
care in Newfoundland and Labrador, particularly in the highly-qualified and very
efficient professionals who we have providing health care.
We have excellent professionals providing health care in Newfoundland and
Labrador. I know the member opposite
agrees.
Mr.
Speaker, we have worked diligently, we have worked very hard with the regional
health authorities in recent years to create a more effective and a more
efficient operating health care system for Newfoundlanders and Labradorians.
We do spend a significant amount of money.
Almost 40 per cent of our total Budget is spent on health care for the
people of the Province, and we have had good success with that.
We have
had improved wait times in many areas.
We have some of the best wait times in Canada in many areas right now,
Mr. Speaker.
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Official Opposition.
MR. BALL:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The
minister also knows that the value for what we spend in health care – that in
Canada right now we are near the bottom.
In 2006, as an example, the government cut the funding for the Office of
Primary Health Care and stopped providing leadership in that role; however,
evidence does show that improvements in primary health care mean better health
outcomes.
I ask
the Premier: Why are you continuing to ignore the evidence that shows improved
primary health care is better for the people of our Province?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I would
have to disagree with the member opposite in some of his comments.
We are making great improvements in health care.
Just yesterday, I was at the Health Sciences Centre here in St. John's
when they had a naming ceremony for the new catheterization labs, a very
important valued piece of equipment and processes for people with significant
cardiac issues.
It is a
$10 million investment. It was a
shared project between government – a $4.5 million investment by the Government
of Newfoundland and Labrador.
Speaking with the doctors there yesterday, they tell me that bringing this
technology to Newfoundland and Labrador has in -turn caused three new young
growing and inspiring experts in the field to Newfoundland and Labrador to
provide services to the people of the Province, Mr. Speaker.
I think that speaks well in investments in the projects we are making.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon.
the Leader of the Official Opposition.
MR. BALL:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I remind
the minister that investing and spending money in health care is one thing;
getting the outcome is something else.
Sixty-three per cent of our physicians have indicated that a significant change
is needed to improve primary health care for our Province.
Many provinces have established frameworks for innovative change in
primary health care.
I ask
the minister: Why are you continuing to ignore the opportunity to improve the
health care system in Newfoundland and Labrador?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
Mr. Speaker, we have more
doctors working in Newfoundland and Labrador than we ever had in the history of
this Province.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
We have 54 per cent – I
believe the number is correct – 54 per cent more nurses than the Canadian
average working right here in Newfoundland and Labrador, per capita, Mr.
Speaker.
We are
making investments in technologies.
We are making investments in our infrastructure throughout Newfoundland and
Labrador, in rural Newfoundland and Labrador and in urban places of Newfoundland
and Labrador. We are bringing in the
specialists and the experts, highly trained and highly skilled, right here to
improve those incomes because he is right, that is what it is about, is giving
the best outcomes for patients, the best outcomes for Newfoundlanders and
Labradorians, and we are doing it, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Official Opposition.
MR. BALL:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Government has been taking a reactive stance to physician vacancies in our
Province. They are doing this
throughout the Province and leaving many people in our Province without
consistent service, and they are doing this without a Province-wide human
resources plan, something that many health care providers have been asking for a
long time. Our Province will
continue to struggle without this human resources plan.
I ask
the minister: Why have you not done something as simple as putting in a human
resources plan for our health care professionals?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
Mr. Speaker, as I have said,
we have been doing significant work in improving health care for Newfoundlanders
and Labradorians, in a board scope and a broad range.
We have been doing work in human resources on recruitment and retention
of specialists and special health care providers.
A couple
of weeks ago the Member for Burgeo – La Poile, opposite here, talked about a
study that we developed eight years ago.
I went looking, because there was no study developed eight years ago.
It was actually a consultation plan that we did six years ago.
We did not spend millions like he said.
We had done twenty-six consultations throughout the Province and we
learned from those consultations. I
can tell you, Mr. Speaker, looking for the report that he talked about that did
not exist, I did find some older reports and I tell you, I look forward to the
opportunity to share those with the people of the Province.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Official Opposition.
MR. BALL:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I will
remind the minister now; I will share with you a report right now.
This is it. You talk about
retention; 20 per cent of Memorial graduates from our Medical School, that is
what stays here in our Province. We
do not have a human resources plan.
Without that strategy, how would we ever expect to retain our own graduates?
Since 80
per cent of the doctors trained are leaving the Province after graduation: Why
do you not even have a plan of recruitment for our own health care
professionals?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
Mr. Speaker, I think he has
erred on his numbers. I am pretty
sure he erred on his numbers. I will
tell him now in a few minutes. I am
going to have a quick look to double check my numbers because I would not him to
be wrong and me to be wrong. I want
to make sure I get the facts right because we are held accountable.
We are held accountable for the people, we are held accountable to this
House, and it is important that we get our facts right.
I am going to have a look at those, and if I can, through the next
question or two, come up with those numbers here, I will certainly share them,
Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for
Burgeo – La Poile.
MR. A. PARSONS:
Mr. Speaker, a resident
seeking support for a friend in crisis last month was shocked to learn that
Eastern Health's mobile crisis unit only operates Wednesday to Sunday.
The Regional Director of Eastern Health Mental Health and Addictions
Program said this restriction is not budgetary.
I ask
the minister: If budget is not a factor, will you expand the mobile crisis
team's hours to seven days a week?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
We may do that, Mr. Speaker,
we may not.
What we
have to do, this project that the hon. member opposite refers to is a pilot
project that was set up a number of years ago.
It has been conducted in the Northeast Avalon area for about four years
right now. There is an evaluation
process that is taking place. We can
evaluate the effectiveness of the program.
Do the hours of the program match the needs?
Does it need more hours, different hours, shorter hours?
That is all part of an evaluation process that will happen.
I should
point out that the mobile response unit is only one tool that is available for
health care providers in the Northeast Avalon, because there is no mobile
response for other parts of the Province.
It was a pilot project set up in the metropolitan St. John's area, the
Northeast Avalon area, but there are numerous other resources to people who
require assistance and supports when they have an incident or an episode or
require psychiatric support. There
are a number of those other opportunities that are available, especially in the
Northeast Avalon.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for
Burgeo – La Poile.
MR. A. PARSONS:
Mr. Speaker, it is
unfortunate that the minister's pilot program does not cover those individuals
with crises on Monday and Tuesday.
Mobile crisis teams were a recommendation from the 2003 Luther inquiry into the
deaths of two men with mental health issues who were shot dead by police.
Judge Luther specified police only be called when there is a concern for
personal safety. In a case last
month, a police car and a police van both responded.
I ask
the minister: What are you doing as Health Minister to end the policing of
mental health?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Policing, and the police response that is available throughout Newfoundland and
Labrador, highly qualified, highly trained police services from the RCMP and
also the RNC. The RCMP in rural
parts of the Province and the RNC in the urban areas.
I can tell you they are highly trained and also have done a significant
amount of training when responding to calls related to people who are in a
mental health crisis. That is
another tool that is available.
We also
have psychiatrists available around the clock, twenty-four hours, seven days a
week through different parts of the Province.
We have an emergency clinic at the Waterford Hospital.
We have emergency rooms throughout the Province that also can be availed
of, and we also have a twenty-four hour, seven day a week crisis line, Mr.
Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for
Burgeo – La Poile.
MR. A. PARSONS:
Mr. Speaker, I am talking about a mobile crisis team and the Luther inquiry
saying do not send the police and the minister talks about sending the police.
Overall,
the dental budget for kids and adults was underspent by $4.7 million last year
and the department's own deputy minister attributed some of these savings to the
low per person cap which makes the program inaccessible.
I ask
the minister: Will you commit the $4.7 million saved last year to this year's
adult dental plan so those who need dental work most can access it?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The
Adult Dental Program in Newfoundland and Labrador is another fine example of the
work this government has done for the people of the Province, Mr. Speaker.
In fact, it is the only dental program of its kind in the country.
The only Adult Dental Program of its kind in Canada, Mr. Speaker.
There
was a budget of $6.7 million allotted in the Adult Dental Program last year.
That budget amount was not fully utilized.
What we did this year to correct that, we have increased the allowable
amount available to people in the Province so that we could increase the
services provided to them. Also,
then increase the budget allotment to reach what we had budgeted and planned
for.
We have
made an increase in that, Mr. Speaker.
It provides more opportunities for people and more funding for people who
need the program.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for
Burgeo – La Poile.
MR. A. PARSONS:
Mr. Speaker, what the
minister did not say is that the changes they have made have actually had less
people accessing this program, and he talks about how good it is.
Let's
talk about the adult denture plan, which is even more absurd.
If you need a full set of dentures you will have to live with either the
top or the bottom dentures for a full year before you are approved for the
second half in the next year.
I ask
the minister: Will you revise this ludicrous cap so people on low-incomes who
need dentures are treated with dignity?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I
appreciate the opportunity to talk more about the Adult Dental Programs that we
have in Newfoundland and Labrador.
We have invested heavily in them. We
continue to do that. We have made
commitments to invest in dental programs for children, for youth, for adults,
and for seniors.
The
denture program is a good example as well.
There is a maximum of a $750 funding allotment allowable to seniors who
meet the requirements, meet the eligibility criteria under the Newfoundland and
Labrador Prescription Drug Program.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MR. DAVIS:
Over two years they can
complete top and bottom. They are
eligible to replace every eight years.
I think it is a good program, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon.
the Member for St. John's North.
MR. KIRBY:
Mr. Speaker, autism spectrum
disorder is affecting one in sixty-eight children in this Province and we have a
wait-list of about 400 children waiting to see a specialist.
Children are on wait-lists for months and even years waiting for an
assessment that can take as little as two hours to complete.
I ask
the minister: Why do children and families have to wait months and sometimes
years to get an assessment that only takes two hours to complete?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Autism
is another very important matter, especially affecting children in Newfoundland
and Labrador and impacting families of Newfoundland and Labrador as well.
This year, Mr. Speaker, we have made significant improvements and
increases in investments in autism services.
There is
$2 million this year invested. That
will be annualized at $3.9 million annually from 2015-2016 and onwards, Mr.
Speaker. That is creating twenty-two
new health positions to provide better services and care for children and
families who deal with autism and live with autism.
There are more investments we are making to address the needs of autism,
for people with autism throughout Newfoundland and Labrador.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for St.
John's North.
MR. KIRBY:
Mr. Speaker, in the Budget
the government announced funding for a new developmental pediatrician; however,
we have heard that this funding simply moved the person from a private practice
into the Janeway. It seems no new
resources were added to the health care system.
This announcement was just more smoke and mirrors from government.
I ask
the minister: Is this true, yes or no?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
There
are twenty-two positions, as I mentioned, that have been created during this
year's Budget. Two million dollars
additional funding is $2 million additional funding; $3.9 million annualized in
the years to come, Mr. Speaker. That
is additional funding. I am trying
to explain to the member opposite that means new funding for new positions.
There are twenty-two new positions.
Those
positions have to be filled. They
will be filled from a variety of sources.
They may be filled from people who are in private practice elsewhere, but
those positions will be filled to complement the health care services within the
regional health authorities for people with autism.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the
District of Cartwright – L'Anse au Clair.
MS DEMPSTER:
Thank you.
Mr.
Speaker, despite urgent requests from physicians, Newfoundlanders and
Labradorians wait time to access critical physiotherapy services – there simply
are not enough physiotherapists to meet the demand.
Residents are forced to either travel hundreds of kilometres for care or
live with debilitating pain.
I ask
the minister: What is being done to address the physiotherapy backlog and
wait-list that exists all over this Province?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I can
tell you in my twenty-eight days as the Minister of Health, in that relatively
short period of time, there are a large number of program areas that are a
concern for people throughout Newfoundland and Labrador.
Physiotherapy is one of those as well.
I can
tell you, if you look at our record, Mr. Speaker, our record is that we have
done very well in looking at wait times and demands for services where there has
been an under availability of resources to provide the services that are
necessary. We see changes and
fluctuations in demand for services as time goes on, as demographics change, as
population changes and needs change.
Also, as technology and health care availabilities and training changes, there
is a difference in approach.
Mr.
Speaker, our record speaks well, and we will deal with those wait times as we
have done with others.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for
Cartwright – L'Anse au Clair.
MS DEMPSTER:
Mr. Speaker, it is obvious
that the lack of physiotherapy services is costing the health care system,
impacting the ability of employees to return to work, and hindering the health
and well-being of many residents living in rural parts of the Province.
I ask
the minister: Will government seek to enter into agreements with out-of-province
schools to improve the recruitment and retention of physiotherapists to
under-serviced areas?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Some of
the agreements the member opposite is referring to are in place.
We have done well in dealing with the needs of people.
We have done a number of consultation processes throughout the Province
in recent years. It is important to
us to provide services in rural Newfoundland and Labrador, and I say to this
House, very important to us to ensure – dialysis is a good example of how we are
providing services, localized services, in rural parts of Newfoundland and
Labrador.
Mr.
Speaker, my understanding is members opposite, their plan one time was to
centralize services. It sounded to
me like to take services out of rural Newfoundland and Labrador.
Maybe the Leader of the Opposition can tell us or explain to us what that
was all about.
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MR. DAVIS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for The
Straits – White Bay North.
MR. MITCHELMORE:
Mr. Speaker, echocardiogram
or ECG services are used to diagnose, manage, and follow up for patients with
any suspected or known heart diseases.
This service was provided in St. Anthony hospital for years but has been
cut. Hundreds of patients now have
to travel to other regions wasting valuable time and money to get this vital
service.
I ask
the minister: Why are you making people of the region travel unnecessarily,
adding further costs to the health care system through medivacs and other
medical travel?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
Mr. Speaker, I am so glad I
had to go digging for reports there a couple of weeks ago, a week or so ago when
the Member for Burgeo – La Poile asked me to start looking for reports, because
there are reports there back from the days when the Liberals were in government.
If you look back in those days, they wanted to streamline services as
well, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MR. DAVIS:
I tell you, as you look back
in the history you will have to ask – maybe the member or the Leader of the
Opposition can speak to this because their plan was to reduce services in rural
Newfoundland and Labrador. They were
going to centralize services throughout Newfoundland and Labrador and take those
services out of the region.
I ask
the member opposite, who is asking the question: How would your plan be affected
by what your plan was back in those days?
How would your problem be affected by their plan back in those days?
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for The
Straits – White Bay North.
MR. MITCHELMORE:
Mr. Speaker, the minister
should stop revisiting past reports and fix and find the solutions.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MR. MITCHELMORE:
Anyone who is familiar with
the hospital would know that the equipment is already there.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MR. MITCHELMORE:
Mr. Speaker, the equipment is
already there at the hospital and it is sitting idle.
There is a technician currently working at the hospital who can use the
equipment. All that is required is
the necessary training and commitment from the government to provide the
service.
I ask
the minister: Will he commit to saving our health dollars and improving patient
care by ensuring echocardiogram service is reinstated at St. Anthony hospital
immediately?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
He is putting his foot down
over there now, Mr. Speaker.
Mr.
Speaker, I should explain. Just a
couple of weeks ago the Member for Burgeo – La Poile – I do not mean to pick on
him because he is generally a decent guy, but he brought it up.
He asked me to go looking back through some older reports, but you do not
have to go back that far, Mr. Speaker.
All you have to do is listen to the speeches that were delivered just a
couple of weeks ago. They talked
about then centralizing services.
Maybe
members opposite can explain: What do they mean by centralizing services?
Do they mean taking health care out of rural Newfoundland and Labrador?
Is that what they are talking about, Mr. Speaker?
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for Mount
Pearl South.
MR. LANE:
Mr. Speaker, as of February,
2013, the average wait time for placement in a long-term care facility was
eighteen to twenty-four months. This
wait time for long-term care is causing acute care bed blockage which is a major
factor in ER overcrowding.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MR. LANE:
I ask the Minister of Health
and Community Services, this government has had ten years and billions in oil
revenues to prepare for the aging baby boom: Why haven't you better prepared our
population for its long-term care needs?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The
Member for The Straits – White Bay North never got up to answer what I asked him
to explain to the people. Now we
have the Member for Mount Pearl South talking about wait times.
Let us
talk about wait times in Canada, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MR. DAVIS:
Our plan – we have some of
the best wait times in radiation therapy in the country, and the best wait times
for bypass surgery, hip replacement, knee replacement, cataract surgery.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
The best wait times in Canada
right here, Mr. Speaker.
I would
like to see how they are going to do that when they streamline and rip the
health care out of rural Newfoundland and Labrador and they build their centres.
How are they going to do that?
I would like to know how they are going to do it.
Maybe
when the Member for Mount Pearl South gets up he can explain to the people of
the Province how streamlining and moving health care from rural Newfoundland and
Labrador is going to be better –
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for Mount
Pearl South.
MR. LANE:
Mr. Speaker, I was asking
questions about long-term care. I
wish he would answer my question.
Mr.
Speaker, as of January 2012, 25 per cent of acute care beds in the Province were
blocked by patients requiring alternate levels of care, like rehab and long-term
care. It costs about $150 a day for
an alternate level of care bed. It
costs about $1,800 a day for an acute care bed.
I ask
the Minister of Health and Community Services: What percentage of acute care
beds are occupied by patients requiring alternate levels of care today?
What are the added costs being borne by taxpayers due to this bed
blockage?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
Mr. Speaker, the member
opposite raises a very important issue and a matter that we have been addressing
for a number of years, when people who need an alternative level of care other
than acute care beds still remain in acute care beds.
I tell you what we are doing for that.
In St. John's, we are building a new facility; 460 new long-term care
beds being built in St. John's.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MR. DAVIS:
Two hundred and twenty-nine
beds in Carbonear. We are building
long-term care beds, Mr. Speaker, in Labrador City and in Happy Valley-Goose
Bay. We are building facilities in
Bonavista and in Clarenville because that is going to address the needs of the
people of Newfoundland and Labrador.
We are
building them in Bonavista; we are building them in rural parts of Newfoundland
and Labrador. We are not ripping
them out like the members opposite plan on doing, Mr. Speaker.
We are putting them back in rural Newfoundland and Labrador.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Third Party.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr.
Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS MICHAEL:
Well over 1,000 people are
waiting for dentures – many for over a year because of government red tape and
delays in approvals for denture work under the Adult Dental Program.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS MICHAEL:
Yet $2.5 million was unspent
in this program in last year's Budget.
I ask
the Minister of Health and Community Services: Why has the department slowed
down the application process for denturists and their patients?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr.
Speaker, I mentioned earlier and I will mention it again, the dental program in
Newfoundland and Labrador, the Adult Dental Program in particular, is a program
like no other in Canada. It is one
of the only programs, as I understand it, in the country for people of
Newfoundland and Labrador.
We have
a dental program that provides services to people who meet the eligibility
criteria under the Newfoundland and Labrador Prescription Drug Program.
We have a denturist program for seniors.
My
understanding, Mr. Speaker, while there is a significant demand for this
program, right now there are about 100 cases being approved every second week,
so that those people can avail of those services of obtaining their dentures.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Third Party.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr.
Speaker.
There
are over 1,000 unapproved.
The
Adult Dental Program was supposed to be a three-year program.
Denturists agreed to take lower pay and made costly investments in new
equipment, only to see government strangle the program.
I ask
the Minister of Health and Community Services: Why has he left those
professionals holding the bag?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
There is
a demand for the service. The member
opposite is correct in what she is saying; there is demand for service.
She is correct in what she is saying today, because she makes errors
sometimes when she comes to the House of Assembly, and so do we, but it is
important that we get our facts right.
A couple
of weeks ago she stood here and said that we are moving Level IV patients into
personal care home. It was
incorrect. She refused to admit her
error, but I am quite willing to admit errors and make corrections when I need
to.
I can
tell you that our dental program and our denture program is a very important one
to the people of the Province. We
have a budget of $6.7 million – and while the members of the Liberal Party might
it find it funny; it is a very important program for certain people in the
Province, $6.7 million. We have made
amendments and improvements to the program this year so we can provide services
to more people. We are approving
applications on a daily basis and those people are receiving those services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Third Party.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr.
Speaker.
I ask
the minister: Is it good policy to have seniors who have had all their teeth
extracted wait six months or longer for dentures, because that is what is
happening?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
Mr. Speaker, it is never a
good thing when people have a delay in needed health care, and that is why we
have made significant planning. We
have looked for efficiencies. We
have improved services. We have
developed new programs. The adult
denture program and the dental program are new programs.
It has only been operating for a couple of years.
Before
that, Mr. Speaker, they had no opportunity for services.
So this program is providing services to numerous Newfoundlanders and
Labradorians. It is providing
services to seniors throughout the Province.
It is an important program, and that is why we continue to make the
investments in it.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for St. John's Centre.
MS ROGERS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Today,
another story of a senior precariously placed while waiting for a long-term care
facility. What was once a geriatric
transitional ward at the Waterford now also houses tertiary care patients; some
who are young and aggressive. This
is poor treatment for either category of patient.
Staff are working hard to serve both populations in a very difficult
situation.
I ask
the minister: Will he guarantee the safety of seniors who are put in this unit?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The
Waterford Hospital has three different geriatric units.
They have an acute care geriatric unit, and they have two residential
geriatric units contained in their hospital.
I can tell you, I have visited and attended the Waterford Hospital many
times over the years for a number of different reasons.
I know the staff there take their roles very seriously.
I know that the care of patients is of utmost importance to all of them
at all times, and the services they provide to them is very important to people.
People
who deliver services at the Waterford Hospital take a lot of pride in the work
that they do. There are three
different units there. There are
patients there who need very important care.
Mr. Speaker, we are about to open a long-term care facility and some of
those patients will be moved to that new long-term care facility in St. John's,
coming this fall.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for St.
John's Centre.
MS ROGERS:
Mr. Speaker, I asked the
minister: Will he guarantee the safety of seniors who are put in this unit?
Mr.
Speaker, seniors are being stuck in acute care hospital beds, geriatric
transitional wards, hospital emergency room corridors, or left without adequate
home care support. One hundred and
forty-five seniors are on wait-lists for long-term care in the Eastern Region
alone. The care and housing of
seniors Province-wide is at a crisis point, with no relief in sight.
I ask
the Premier: Will he strike an all-party committee to deal with the growing
crisis of senior care? This is not
going away.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I just
outlined earlier some of the investments we are making into long-term care.
We cannot create long-term care beds overnight.
It takes a long time to establish these facilities; it takes a long time
to plan them and to build them. We
are building the facility in St. John's, as I referred to, 460 beds, scheduled
to open this coming fall, a much needed piece of infrastructure for the people
of the Province. We look forward to
that opening as well as anyone else does.
Right
now, Mr. Speaker, there is an equivalent number of people moving into long-term
care in a three-month period as there is on the wait-list.
So, there is turnover. Not to
paint the picture wrong for the member opposite and to completely disagree with
what she says – because some people stay on the list longer than others.
Priorities are dealt with by need, but in a three-month period there are
as many people moving into long-term care as there are on the complete
wait-list.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The time for Question Period
has expired.
Presenting Reports by Standing and Select Committees.
Tabling of Documents.
Tabling of Documents
MR.
SPEAKER:
The
hon. the Minister of Service NL.
MR.
CRUMMELL:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to stand today to table 2013
Annual Performance Report of the Workplace Health, Safety and Compensation
Commission. It is a good piece of
work; have a good read over there, members opposite.
There is some good information here about the good things that are
happening with the Commission.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh,
oh!
MR.
SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MR.
CRUMMELL:
Mr.
Speaker, I just want to table this document and welcome members to have a read
at their leisure, and I welcome questions in the future.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
MR.
SPEAKER:
The
hon. the Minister of Finance.
MS
JOHNSON:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, pursuant to section 26.(5)(a) of the
Financial Administration Act, I am tabling two Orders in Council related to
funding pre-commitments for the 2015-2016 fiscal year.
MR.
SPEAKER:
Notices of Motion.
Notices of Motion
MR.
SPEAKER:
The
hon. the Government House Leader.
MR.
KING:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I am pleased to give notice that I will ask leave to
introduce the following resolution.
BE IT RESOLVED by the House of Assembly as follows:
WHEREAS section 42.1 of the Access to Information and
Protection of Privacy Act provides that the Information and Privacy Commissioner
is to be appointed by the Lieutenant Governor in Council on a resolution of the
House of Assembly; and
WHEREAS section 42.2 of the act states that a
commissioner may be reappointed; and
WHEREAS the appointment of the current commissioner,
Mr. Ed Ring, expires on June 24, 2014; and
WHEREAS it is proposed the Mr. Ring be reappointed as
the commissioner for a term of two years;
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that Mr. Ed Ring be
appointed as the Information and Privacy Commissioner for a term of two years.
MR.
SPEAKER:
Answers to Questions for which Notice has been Given.
Petitions.
Petitions
MR.
SPEAKER:
The
hon. the Member for St. John's South.
MR.
OSBORNE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, I presented a petition here yesterday
regarding Saint Luke's cottages; I have another one to present today.
WHEREAS Saint Luke's cottages has been using the
continuum of care model since it opened.
It entails priority access to long-term care beds, as clearly stated in
the Saint Luke's handbook, which is given to all tenants.
Further commitment was confirmed in 1995 under the Single Entry System
established by Eastern Health. This
allowed cottage tenants to join Saint Luke's if they were no longer able to
function independently regardless of their level of care; and
WHEREAS Eastern Health has arbitrarily changed this
practice in recent months; Level II cottage tenants are now being forced to
leave and live in personal care homes when placement is needed.
This breaks the commitment to the continuum of care model; and
WHEREAS we became aware of this change in practice when
a ninety-three-year-old tenant, who lived at Saint Luke's cottages for thirteen
years, was forced to find other living arrangements after returning from
hospital. This incident has caused
other tenants to worry about their future.
Saint Luke's Homes is committed to the continuum of care model; however,
it is being abolished by the decisions made by placement services;
WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly
pray and call upon the House of Assembly to urge government to request that
Eastern Health and provincial government direct the staff at Placement Services
to continue to honour the existing agreement and past practice to have the
tenants of Saint Luke's cottages moved over to Saint Luke's Homes when they can
no longer manage to live in their cottages.
Mr. Speaker, the idea of aging and placement has been
one that Saint Luke's has practiced with tenants going into Bishop Meaden Manor
and from there to Saint Luke's cottages, and from there to Saint Luke's Homes.
This provides a sense of security and a sense of relief for many of the
tenants. They know that as they age
with their friends and other tenants at Saint Luke's cottages they will have
first choice of a placement at Saint Luke's Homes.
I know that Saint Luke's cottages are looking at
building a facility on Old Topsail Road starting this summer.
That will, in large part, relieve some of the concern that tenants have
of the cottages here because some of those tenants, instead of having to go to
personal care homes, will be able to move from the cottage to the building that
is being constructed on the Saint Luke's property this summer, so that property
will probably be a year or thereabouts until final completion of construction.
What I would certainly like for the department to do
and for Eastern Health to do is to look at allowing the practice of Saint Luke's
cottage tenants to continue to go to Saint Luke's Homes as they require that
level of service up to such a point the building is built.
MR.
SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MR.
OSBORNE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Orders of the Day
Private Members' Day
MR.
SPEAKER:
It
now being Wednesday, Private Members' Day, there are only a few seconds before
we get to 3:00 o'clock. We hardly
have time for another petition.
I now call on the Member for St. John's South to
introduce the motion that is on the Order Paper in his name.
The hon. the Member for St. John's South.
MR.
OSBORNE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The private member's resolution for those who are
viewing and for all members of the House:
WHEREAS Newfoundland and Labrador has the highest
median age in Canada; and
WHEREAS one in six people in our Province today are
seniors, and by 2025 one in four people who will be seniors; and
WHEREAS access to safe, accessible, affordable housing
is one of the most significant challenges and issues facing seniors;
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the House of Assembly
urge government to develop a comprehensive housing strategy for seniors.
Mr. Speaker, when looking at housing, we do have an
aging population in this Province. I
just want to talk about that a little bit before moving to other issues that I
want to speak about regarding this.
The baby boom is now aging, and those born between 1946
and 1965 are now between the ages of forty-nine and sixty-eight.
If you look at the people in this Province who are sixty-five years of
age or older, there are 87,465. If
you look at the baby boomers, who are between the ages of fifty and sixty-four,
there are 126,575. So, clearly,
based on those numbers we do have an aging population.
There are fewer children to now care for their aging
parents than there were three or four decades ago.
The number of senior citizens could exceed the number of children for the
first time in Canada's history.
There are, therefore, less children, as I said, to care for the aging parents
compared to previous years and this puts competing demands such as career,
married life, and their own children – because people are getting married now at
a later age than they were twenty, thirty, or forty years ago, or even sooner,
so they are older when they have children.
Years ago, the children could care for their aging
parents. Those children of the aging
parents, their children have already grown, in most cases.
That is no longer the case today, where you have the children of aging
parents still have children themselves.
Years ago, you would have both parents but you would
have one of the two parents working, and the other parent home looking after
home and family. That relived a
little bit of pressure because the spouse who was home and able to look after
home and family also had additional time to look after their aging parents.
That is no longer the case today, where you have both sets of parents
working. You have career demands on
both sets of parents, married life and, as I said, children.
So if you look at the fact that you have aging parents,
we need to develop a comprehensive housing strategy in this Province to help
look after our aging population.
When you look at, in many cases, the biggest struggle for individuals is the
cost of housing and even if they own their own home, the cost maintaining that
home, the cost of heating that home and the cost of providing food and
utilities.
Mr.
Speaker, more so in the case where you have individuals who have lost a spouse,
now surviving on a pension, the single pension or survivors' benefits trying to
maintain a home. Many of our seniors
today are living in cold homes with empty fridges, and that is a reality; not
everybody, but even the ones who are able to survive are not able to survive as
comfortably as they did in previous decades.
It is a
concern. It is a concern when you
look at the fact that the population is aging.
It is not quite double, but you look at 87,465 people in this Province
are now above the age of sixty-five.
Well, between the ages of fifty and sixty-four it is 126,575.
The timing is appropriate now where we look at a comprehensive strategy
to look after our seniors because of that aging population, because of the
change in demographics and the change in the structure of that demographics
where children no longer have the same time on their hands to be able to care
for their aging parents. They have
competing demands.
Mr.
Speaker, this Province has the fastest aging population in Canada and an
increasing demand for seniors housing and supports.
Housing is, as I said, the greatest single expense that most people have
and the income levels of our Province's seniors are lower than the national
average. In addition, a large
proportion of our seniors live in rural areas.
The health status and income levels are important determining factors.
I am
just going to shift gears a little bit and talk about the fact that if we can
help seniors stay in their homes longer – and I understand there is a cost to
doing that, but if we can help seniors stay in their homes longer there is far
less expense on the Province when you look at having to put seniors in personal
care homes or assisted living, or long-term care.
It is a
strategy, it is a policy that is well worth looking at, well worth exploring,
Mr. Speaker, from a cost perspective as well as the fact that many seniors would
prefer to stay in their own homes if they had the support network and the
ability to do that. Many of them are
forced out of their homes because they simply cannot afford to maintain it.
They cannot afford the transportation to and from medical facilities.
They cannot afford and do not have the ability to provide those
necessities.
Mr.
Speaker, the seniors, as I said, would prefer to remain in their own homes as
long as possible. The benefits of
aging in place including a feeling of independence and comfort, safety,
security, the ability to be near their family and having familiarity with their
surroundings. There are barriers to
remaining at home, including the inability to maintain their property, as I have
explained, the inadequate finances and illness, the need for that safety and
security, inadequate family support, transportation.
To overcome those barriers, creating housing incentives is needed.
I am not
coming down on government. There are
aspects that I would say need improvement.
The availability of housing, especially for seniors.
The availability of one-bedroom housing units.
The level of rental support through Income Support and so on; but, that
is not the issue today. The issue is
finding ways and putting in place a comprehensive policy to help seniors stay in
their homes longer, to look at the many factors that are contributing to that,
including the fact that we have a very rapidly growing senior population, an
aging population.
If you
look at, age in place initiatives must also take into account the diversity of
situations and needs of seniors given the differences in age, physical ability,
mental health, economic and financial status, gender, rural versus urban status,
current housing situations, culture and personal references.
This is
not an easy solution, I understand that, but that is the reason we need to
develop a comprehensive policy for seniors housing, Mr. Speaker.
It is not something to say: Well, we are doing a great job, or we are
doing this, we are doing that. We do
have a situation that will have a growing demand on the need for seniors
housing. As I said, if we can keep
seniors in their own housing longer it will be far less expensive on government
than personal care homes or assisted living accommodations and so on.
Mr.
Speaker, a seniors housing strategy should be a planning document that will
specifically address the needs of seniors, including but not limited to,
housing, transportation, social aspects, accessibility and other services.
That strategy, Mr. Speaker, should be reflective of the Province's
population statistics. I have
already outlined those, but if you consider the fact that a senior is anywhere
over the age of sixty-five, and in 1990 one in ten people were considered to be
seniors. Today, it is one in six
people considered to be seniors, and by 2025 one in four people in this Province
will be considered to be seniors. It
is something we definitely need to put a focus on.
We need
to start to look at how we are better able to assist those seniors to stay in
their own homes, and not only to stay in their own homes but a comprehensive
strategy. It is not only including
the ability to age in their own home and in their own community, to age in place
if you call it, but also accessibility to personal care homes, accessibility to
assisted living, accessibility to services, accessibility to support systems for
seniors, Mr. Speaker.
How we
put all of those pieces of that puzzle together to ensure the strategy will fit
the aging population so that we are not trying to catch up, we are not trying to
focus on a problem, but create a solution to that problem before it is created.
We look at geographical location to larger urban centres, the desire of
many people to stay in their own homes or to age in place, a housing continuum
and care options for seniors.
Mr.
Speaker, a summary of a report done by the Atlantic Seniors Housing Research
Alliance in 2010 – and that report was titled Seniors' Housing: Challenges,
Issues and Possible Solutions. The
main investigator was Mount Saint Vincent University.
However, there were other groups that were involved as well including:
Dalhousie University, University of PEI, Memorial University of Newfoundland and
Labrador, the University of New Brunswick, the Research Council of Canada, and
the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation.
The
group found that there were nine key issues: Housing design: safe, accessible
lifetime housing; availability of home supports; availability of a continuum of
housing choices; availability of transportation when and where needed; supports
for housing transition planning; recognizing housing costs and affordability
issues; housing needs of seniors who are vulnerable or socially excluded; the
potential for community capacity building; and, planning for tomorrow's Atlantic
Canadian seniors.
Mr.
Speaker, we heard some questions today around seniors, health questions to the
Minister of Health. Some of those
were the fact that you have now people taking up acute care beds because there
is a lack of long-term care beds in this Province.
That as well needs to fit into a comprehensive strategy on seniors
housing.
You look
at the fact that we are building facilities such as the facility we built in
Corner Brook where there were not enough long-term care beds in that facility.
A year or so later, government had to put additional funding in the
Budget to try and increase the number of beds in that facility.
So when we build facilities, we are not always building
them to meet, not only today's needs but tomorrow's needs; because when you
build a facility and open the doors of that facility and it is already filled at
capacity, you are not even meeting today's needs.
The planning for long-term care, the planning for assisted living, for
personal care, also has to be a part of a comprehensive seniors' housing
strategy. We need to look at all of
these aspects, Mr. Speaker.
Again, I cannot stress enough the fact that we have an
aging population, a population that is rapidly aging to what is considered to be
seniors. So, a comprehensive
seniors' housing strategy is something that we need to act expeditiously on, in
my opinion.
The Seniors Resource Centre: I am familiar with some of
the calls and inquiries that they are getting from seniors from all over the
Province. The latest issue – the
single largest issue, I should say, that the Seniors Resource Centre hears from
seniors is related to housing. There
are many different aspects related to housing.
Seniors want to live independently for as long as they can – that is what
we are hearing – in their own homes and their own communities.
There are many different issues related to this such as
community supports, home care – the availability of home care.
If you look at, as part of the strategy, providing home care to seniors
who are living in their own homes, it is far less expensive than assisted living
or personal care homes or long-term care facilities.
You look at the issues of snow clearing for seniors.
That has to fit into a strategy as well, or wood cutting, wood cutting
for seniors who heat their homes with wood, home maintenance, affordability.
The wait-list for social housing – there have been some announcements
lately on social housing, but they do not meet the needs.
The wait-list far exceeds the number of social housing units that are
available today, and especially for seniors.
Not only today – and I say especially for seniors today, but you look at
the fact that the seniors' population is rapidly aging, so more especially for
tomorrow.
You look at smaller communities and some have seniors'
complexes, but there are some smaller communities without seniors' complexes.
MR.
SPEAKER (Verge):
Order, please!
I remind the member that his time for speaking has
expired.
MR.
OSBORNE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I will have an opportunity to speak a little more
later.
MR.
SPEAKER:
The
hon. the Member for Port at Port.
MR.
CORNECT:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, it is a great privilege to stand in my
place this afternoon representing the great District of Port au Port, and its
people, to speak on the private member's resolution as put forth by the Official
Opposition. I am delighted as well
to have the opportunity to provide an overview of the various programs and
housing options offered through the Newfoundland and Labrador Housing
Corporation that is designed to assist low-income seniors throughout our
Province.
Mr. Speaker, I can tell you that Newfoundland and
Labrador Housing has some excellent programs in place that have been assisting
seniors throughout Newfoundland and Labrador for many years and continue to
assist seniors in our Province today, and well into the future, I would add,
because we are continuing to invest in these programs.
When you talk about housing, I want to talk about the
Investment in Affordable Housing, or IAH as they call it.
Mr. Speaker, this is cost-shared 50-50 with the federal government and is
delivered by the Newfoundland and Labrador Housing Corporation.
The Affordable Housing Program helps create modest, affordable rental
housing for low-to-moderate income households.
Mr. Speaker, eligible private sector or supportive
living housing sector proponents receive capital funding for the construction of
affordable housing units, primarily for seniors as well as families, persons
with disabilities, or persons with complex needs.
Since 2004, approximately 1,117 new, affordable housing units have been
created throughout Newfoundland and Labrador through four previous investments
in affordable agreements.
Mr. Speaker, we now have a new $68 million investment
in the Affordable Housing Agreement that is about to be signed over in the
coming weeks. What this new
agreement will do, it will provide $28 million over the next five years to
create approximately 590 additional, new affordable housing units, the majority
of which will assist seniors. This
will bring the number of affordable homes, mostly for seniors, to approximately
1,700 Province-wide by the end of the agreement in 2019.
I want to talk a little bit about the Provincial Home
Repair Program as well. Mr. Speaker,
the remaining $40 million from this new investment in the Affordable Housing
Agreement will be used to help fund the Provincial Home Repair Program.
This federal-provincial cost-shared program, which has been in place for
thirty-six years, is administered and delivered by Newfoundland and Labrador
Housing Corporation as well.
Low-income households are provided with financial
assistance to improve their homes, thereby allowing them to stay in their homes
much longer. Mr. Speaker,
approximately 86 per cent of people assisted under PHRP, or the Provincial Home
Repair Program, are seniors with low incomes.
The average homeowner recipient is sixty-eight years old, has an annual
income of $18,646, and occupies a forty-eight-year-old house in the rural part
of our Province.
Mr. Speaker, in 2013-2014 the Newfoundland and Labrador
Housing Corporation provided $6.2 million through the Provincial Home Repair
Program to assist approximately 1,650 clients to continue living comfortably in
their own homes. Items that
clients may be eligible to upgrade include windows, doors, siding, insulation,
roofing, and heating systems – all of which can improve the energy efficiency of
a home.
The Rental Housing Program, Mr. Speaker, the
Newfoundland and Labrador Housing Corporation again owns and administers 5,568
social housing units throughout various regions of the Province – with the
greatest concentration of units located in the Avalon Region, 3,166; and in the
Corner Brook Region, 804.
Just this past week, Mr. Speaker, the Newfoundland and
Labrador Housing Corporation also increased its own housing portfolio with
twelve new seniors' units located in the Charter Avenue building in
Pleasantville, through a $2.3 million investment.
Mr. Speaker, 34 per cent of the 5,568 homes house
seniors aged sixty-plus. In
addition, all seniors in Newfoundland and Labrador Housing units are eligible
for heat subsidies. Throughout its
own social housing portfolio, Newfoundland and Labrador Housing Corporation has
forty-one buildings, Province-wide, totalling 420 units, which are designated
seniors' buildings.
Mr. Speaker, the Home Modification Program – and as I
have mentioned, there are many affordable housing options offered by
Newfoundland and Labrador Housing Corporation for seniors throughout the
Province. The Home Modification
Program is another such program. It
is designed to provide funding to low-to-moderate income homeowners, $46,500 or
less, seniors, and persons with disabilities who require significant
accessibility changes to their residences.
The program, Mr. Speaker, helps promote independence, self-reliance,
assists with a better quality of life, and enables individuals to remain in
their own homes for a longer period.
This past fiscal year, Mr. Speaker, the Newfoundland
and Labrador Housing Corporation's Home Modification Program provided $1.9
million to assist approximately 300 seniors with low-to-moderate incomes
make accessibility modifications to their homes.
The Rent
Supplement Program, in partnership with private landlords, Newfoundland and
Labrador Housing Corporation provides 1,732 affordable one and two bedroom units
for households with lower incomes by subsidizing the rental difference between
what the private landlord is charging and what the tenant can afford to pay.
This is a program whose funding was doubled by this government from $4
million per year which it had been to $8 million just a few years ago.
The
budget was increased again in 2014 to $9 million and will enable Newfoundland
and Labrador Housing to increase the rent supplement to 1,882 units
Province-wide in 2014-2015. Mr.
Speaker, the majority of these households assisted under the Rent Supplement
Program are seniors with an average age of sixty-plus.
Mr.
Speaker, I want to talk about REEP as well, the Residential Energy Efficiency
Program. REEP is designed to assist
low-income households, $32,500 or less per year, in making energy efficient
retrofits to their homes. The
average client profile is sixty-six years old with an annual household income of
$20,395 and is living in a forty-nine year old home, generally in a rural part
of the Province. Eighty-three per
cent of applicants for the Residential Energy Efficiency Program are seniors.
In
2013-2014, Newfoundland and Labrador Housing Corporation provided $1.5 million
to assist approximately 500 homeowners.
In Budget 2014, the program was reinstated to 2012 funding levels and
extended for three years at $4 million per year.
Mr.
Speaker, what this will do, it will enable Newfoundland and Labrador Housing
Corporation to serve up to 1,000 low-income homeowners annually with energy
retrofits that will significantly improve affordability by reducing heating
costs. To date, Mr. Speaker, we have
been able to assist more than 4,500 homeowners with energy retrofits through the
Residential Energy Efficiency Program with an estimated average energy savings
of 32 per cent or $735 annually.
These retrofits make housing more affordable while reducing greenhouse gas
emissions. Homeowners can avail of a
grant up to $3,000 per unit on the Island, and in Labrador $4,000 per unit.
Mr.
Speaker, I want to talk about the Partner-Managed Housing program.
Newfoundland and Labrador Housing Corporation's Partner-Managed Housing
program provides over 1,000 affordable rental housing units throughout the
Province and assists mostly seniors.
These are managed by sixty non-profit groups, including the City of St. John's,
Humber Valley Seniors, Marystown Kinsmen, Melville Native Housing, Robert's Arm
Interfaith Seniors, Harbour View Homes, Harbour Grace, Random Interfaith,
Clarenville, among others.
Mr.
Speaker, I want to remind our hon. colleagues that Newfoundland and Labrador
Housing Corporation is the Crown corporation responsible for the implementation
of government's social housing policy and programs.
In addition to seniors, their focus is providing safe and affordable
housing to low-income families, persons with complex needs, persons with
disabilities, and single adults with low income.
Seniors
are the fastest growing proponent of our Province's population.
As you can plainly see from the long list of programs I have described,
Mr. Speaker, seniors are certainly a main priority for the Newfoundland and
Labrador Housing Corporation and this government.
At this
point, Mr. Speaker, I want to make an amendment to the resolution.
I move, seconded by the hon. Member for Humber West, to amend the motion
by adding a fourth recital clause which will read:
WHEREAS
the government's social housing strategy includes several housing
initiatives giving seniors access to safe, accessible, affordable housing.
Also
adding in the resolution clause after the word “seniors” the phrase
“incorporating its existing housing initiatives from which seniors are
benefitting”.
Mr.
Speaker, the new amended resolution would read:
WHEREAS
Newfoundland and Labrador has the highest median age in Canada; and
WHEREAS
one in six people in our Province today are seniors, and by 2025 one in four
people will be seniors; and
WHEREAS
access to safe, accessible, affordable housing is one of the most significant
issues facing seniors; and
WHEREAS
the government's social housing strategy includes several housing initiatives
giving seniors access to safe, accessible, affordable housing.
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the House of Assembly urge government to develop a
comprehensive housing strategy for seniors incorporating its existing housing
initiatives from which seniors are benefitting.
Thank
you, Mr. Speaker.
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
Before
we consider the amendment, I would like to take the opportunity to recognize the
Deputy Mayor of New-Wes-Valley who is joining us in the gallery today, Mr. Ken
Hoyles.
Welcome
to our gallery.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The House will now take a
brief recess to consider whether the amendment is in order.
Recess
MR. SPEAKER:
The amendment is determined
to be in order.
The hon.
the Member for Bay of Islands.
MR. JOYCE:
Mr. Speaker, I rise here to
speak on this today. I understand
the amendment is in order. The
amendment does not change the original intent of the private member's motion,
but once again it just shows government, that even when the member puts in a
motion it almost has to be like you have to brag everything we are doing.
Mr.
Speaker, there is absolutely no doubt there has been good stuff done.
I am one of the people who stood up in this House on many occasions to
talk about the good things, but, when you look at the amendment, several housing
initiatives - that is right, several – several are not enough.
That is why we are introducing this motion, when you say several are not
enough.
When you
add the other part of the amendment, incorporate its existing housing
initiatives from which seniors are benefiting, there is no doubt there are a lot
of programs here that the government has initiated that benefit seniors, but are
they working? Are they working to
the extent they should? Did it work
in the 2012 strategy plan that you put in place two years ago?
Are they working?
Mr.
Speaker, when this motion came forward and we discussed this motion, this motion
was more to say, let's all, as parliamentarians, develop a strategy for seniors.
Let's all have this open discussion, because there are major concerns for
seniors in this Province.
I know
the former Minister of Health, we spoke about this on several occasions, Mr.
Speaker. I have to say to the former
Minister of Health, when it came to seniors, we dealt with a lot of seniors'
issues. I know the former Minister
of Health helped out a lot of senior groups in the District of Bay of Islands.
I know we had a disagreement on the hospital, but I cannot deny the
initiative that she was undertaking for seniors in this Province.
I cannot do it. When there
are issues that I have for seniors, I cannot step back and say that the minister
was not there.
I even
remember once or twice, Mr. Speaker, it was on a Sunday afternoon that the
minister's office and staff were there to help out seniors.
There is no doubt that the former Minister of Health – when we had
discussions on the seniors, everybody is committed to this.
The former Minister of Health was one person also who is very committed
to seniors in this Province. I know
that personally. I am sure the
current Minister of Health is also.
I know,
Mr. Speaker, there are times when we have disagreements in this House, one was
with the hospital, but I cannot take away the commitment that the former
Minister of Health had to seniors in this Province and the people in this
Province. I refuse to do it because
it would not be telling the truth and I cannot do it.
I
remember one case when I called on a Sunday evening and the minister and her
staff was there available, helping me out on something, Mr. Speaker, that was –
we all agree that we are all here to help seniors.
We all agree to that, and I would never deny anybody in this Legislature
that. I know the Member for Humber
West; we deal closely on seniors issues out in Humber West, the Bay of Islands,
and the Cormack area also. I would
never take that away from the Member for Humber West.
We may disagree on some issues, but one thing we cannot disagree on is an
initiative that we would try for seniors, Mr. Speaker.
This
PMR, Mr. Speaker, was more for all of us to come together and say, is the
strategy working? Is the strategy
working that is in place now for seniors in this Province?
We all mentioned that there were a large number of seniors in this
Province, and the number is growing on a regular basis.
On a daily basis it is growing, the number of seniors who need
accommodations.
Mr.
Speaker, accommodations for seniors comes with all the support groups and
support initiatives that we need to keep them in their homes – for long-term
care facilities, for long-term needs for seniors.
There is a complex and a variety of needs that they need.
Home care is one.
I will
just give you an example, Mr. Speaker.
Out around the Corner Brook area, and I always said this, we need greater
efficiency in home care services. We
need it. If we are planning on
trying to keep seniors in their own home, especially in rural areas – Mr.
Speaker, I would not stand here today and say I have all the answers.
I do not have all the answers.
I do not
think any member in this House of Assembly has all the answers, but we need to
find some way that we can come up with a comprehensive strategy for seniors and
housing for seniors that will encompass home care, that will encompass
affordable housing, that will encompass ensuring that seniors could stay in
their own home with the electricity bills, the light bills, the heat bills, and
transportation costs. This is what
this private member's resolution is, Mr. Speaker, which I am glad to second, is
we need to come up with a strategy for this.
Mr.
Speaker, I heard the member speak about Newfoundland and Labrador Housing.
There is no doubt Newfoundland and Labrador Housing has some initiatives
in place for seniors. There is no
one denying that. I know during
Estimates when I was talking about housing, there is absolutely no doubt that
there are some good initiatives like the RRAP, the energy rebate program.
That is a good program. The
question is, Mr. Speaker, is there any way we can increase it because the
(inaudible) increase the cost for some seniors.
I know
my colleague mentioned it. One of
the greatest concerns a lot of seniors have – and I know a lot who are into it –
is what happens if a spouse passes away?
If you are living on two incomes, Mr. Speaker, and one passes away, you
are down to one income but you have the same number of bills.
This is the kind of initiative that we need to look at in the private
member's motion.
The
design for homes for seniors, Mr. Speaker, this is very important, the design
for homes. Mr. Speaker, I had the
pleasure of being involved with some groups with people with disabilities for a
number of years. We did a lot of
studies and reviewed a lot of studies across Canada.
The most vulnerable group now for mobility issues, and even becoming
paraplegics, are seniors.
When we
hear about designing Newfoundland and Labrador Housing, when we hear about new
programs, Mr. Speaker, we have to incorporate the design for seniors who have
mobility issues. The greatest
numbers who are now becoming paraplegic are seniors, because of their age, the
deterioration in their spine, disease in the spine and other reasons.
When we
asked questions earlier about seniors and seniors' issues, there is absolutely
no doubt when you stand up and say we spent this amount of money, we spend this
much for housing, we spent this much to ensure that a lot of units are
wheelchair accessible. There is no
doubt, but we have to face the reality that there are many seniors out there who
cannot afford housing. We have to
face it.
How are
we going to solve it, Mr. Speaker? I
do not have the answers. I will be
the first to admit. I do not think
anybody on the government side has all the answers.
I
do not think anybody would stand up and profess to have all the answers.
What we need – and this is the private member's resolution – is a
strategy that we can first develop, maintain, and two years down the road we
have to look at the outcomes. It is
no good to put in a strategy and say oh, we have the strategy and just take it
and put it on the shelf and say hopefully it is all going to work; we have to
set outcomes in that strategy. Then
we have to have some way to review the outcomes to see if they are working and
if the outcomes are not working, how we can revise the strategy as we move on.
We have to do that.
I know the government developed a strategy in 2012, and
two years later I have not seen any updates on this strategy.
I am not sure if there was any ever given.
I have not seen any updates on the strategy.
Did we check the outcomes on the strategy that was developed in 2012, Mr.
Speaker? I know when you go to a lot
of groups, when they set up a five- or ten-year strategy they have outcomes to
see if you are meeting the goals that you set out.
That is what I was thinking about, Mr. Speaker.
That is why I feel that we need the strategy but we need to make sure it
is affordable, attainable, and we have to have a way to look at the results of
the strategy.
Mr. Speaker, private partner, public partner
partnership is a great way – and I know there are groups that have taken
advantage of that. I know there are
some private individuals who have taken advantage of that.
I think it is great. If that
is what we need to do, we need to do it.
Mr. Speaker, however we – and I mean government.
However government can come up and find some affordable housing for
seniors, I am the first one to say we need it.
We need to first recognize that there is a problem out there.
We need to do that. We need
to recognize that there is a problem out there.
We need to recognize that the strategy that was put in place back in
2012, or the strategy that came out we have not seen the outcomes.
We have to see where it is at.
I am not standing alone here; I can assure you, I would
say every member in this House of Assembly, every member, had calls about
seniors about affordable housing.
This is not unique to this party.
This is not unique to the NDP. This
is not unique to the government.
This is a provincial issue, Mr. Speaker.
I am sure there is not one of us in this House of Assembly would want to
hear another call from a senior saying I cannot afford to live in my home.
It is sad.
So this is what this private member's resolution is all
about. This is not an attack on
government. This is absolutely no
attack on government. This is just
raising the issue again. This is
taking this issue and let us have a frank discussion about where we are, where
we need to go, and how can get there.
That is what this is all about.
I have no intent here to try to criticize anybody; there is lots of time
for that. There are lots of things
to bring up – you could always bring up issues, but we need to come together,
Mr. Speaker.
I see the amendments that the Member for Port au Port
made, Mr. Speaker, and the only part that I disagree with is “several”.
I agree there are several initiatives, but we need more.
The second part, Mr. Speaker, “incorporating existing housing initiatives
from which seniors are benefitting”, I agree; there are some who are benefiting.
I will vote for the amendment.
I have no problem with that, because I always recognize issues and some
initiatives that this government has done for seniors.
Mr. Speaker, I brought this up in Estimates.
It was not this year; it was last year.
There are wait-lists for the social housing for seniors.
There are wait-lists. I
understand that they are not going to disappear overnight, but when we hear
about oh, the list has gone down, this is one thing I just want to let the
people in the Province know: The list has gone down is 100 per cent correct.
Part of the reason, Mr. Speaker, is that after one year, your name is
taken off, gone. That is why the
list has gone down.
I am sure there is extra housing, but that is why the
list is always very low. Because
after a year, your name is taken off the list; you have to go through the whole
process. People just find it so
cumbersome that again, if they move to a certain part of a city, like in Corner
Brook, they move from one area to another, they have to go through the whole
process. They have to go get the
doctor's referrals. They have to go
to Income Tax. They have to go
through the whole process again.
That is why the list is down so far when they stand up and say: Oh, well, the
lists have dropped a lot. You have
to look at why.
Mr. Speaker, this is not unique to St. John's, Corner
Brook, or Gander. This is rural
Newfoundland. It is a major issue in
rural Newfoundland. This is why we
need a comprehensive review of the housing for seniors for all Newfoundland and
Labrador, for rural parts, urban parts, St. John's, Corner Brook, Gander, and
Deer Lake. In all parts, there are
seniors with major issues.
Mr. Speaker, we also need a lot of shelters and hostels
for seniors for short terms. This is
part of the strategy. If you ever
look at seniors who come into some emergency situation, have to move out, and
have nowhere to go. The next thing
you know they are into a long-term care facility because they have nowhere to go
on a short-term basis. That is part
of the strategy of the housing.
Mr. Speaker, I see my time is up.
I ask members to support this.
I do support that government does has initiatives there for the seniors.
I support every one that you can get – even more, if possible.
Mr. Speaker, I just thank everybody for participating
in the discussion today. Let us all
remember that no one in this House wants to have a senior move out of their
home. Let us all work together to
improve the housing for seniors.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
MR.
SPEAKER:
The
hon. the Member for Humber West.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR.
GRANTER:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
It is indeed a great opportunity this afternoon to
stand in this House and speak to this private member's motion.
I am not going to stand on this side of the House and disagree with
anything that the member from across the way had to say for his fifteen minutes
on the floor of the House. As he
said and everyone on this side of the House and all three parties, we all have
significant seniors in our lives, whether they be individuals who are in our
families or individuals who we have as close friends, or seniors who are friends
of friends who we have.
We have seniors in our district, Mr. Speaker, who often
pick up the phone and call you on numerous issues.
I for one am not going to stand in the House today and say that I do not
receive any phone calls from seniors or children of seniors looking for answers,
or solutions to situations that seniors are in.
Just a couple of days ago I had the great privilege of
standing in this House and recognizing one of the seniors in Corner Brook, Mr.
Fred Alteen, who was recognized as Citizen of the Year for 2013 in the ACE
Awards. It was a privilege to
actually do that, someone who served in World War II and who has been a member
of the Royal Canadian Legion for over forty or fifty, sixty years I do believe,
Mr. Speaker, and just who contributes like many others in the community to make
Corner Brook and the surrounding area a better place.
I often think of people in Corner Brook like Bernice
Buckle and Israel Hann who have been advocates for not only seniors' issues, Mr.
Speaker, but issues of people in general in the Corner Brook area.
I think of the late Minnie Vallis and Gertie Hynes.
Her and I sit down often and have numerous conversations about issues
that are reflective on what seniors need in our communities.
Mr. Speaker, our government is committed to healthy
aging and building a more age-friendly Province.
Over the past several years we have funded seniors' groups and
organizations that focus on involving and supporting seniors in their
communities. We have implemented the
Long-Term Care and Community Support Services Strategy that looks at a full
continuum of long-term care ranging from initiatives like home support, the paid
family caregiving option, the roles of personal care homes, and long-term care
bed accessibility.
I know
the Member for the Bay of Islands just referenced that it is a provincial issue.
It is not only a provincial issue.
Mr. Speaker, we recognize on this side of the House, as do other
organizations and the federal government, that as our population ages, it is not
only a provincial issue; it is a provincial issue right across the country and
it is a Canadian issue. I would say
it is an international issue as our population ages and lives longer.
The issue of housing becomes more and more important as we age.
It is
important to remember that, ten years from now, or fifteen years from now, the
people who will replace us could be standing on the floor of this House, Mr.
Speaker, and also talking about issues with regard to seniors and housing.
This government has contributed and other governments have contributed to
building seniors complexes, whether it be long-term care facilities in Corner
Brook. I know when it opened.
Now we are going back and build another long-term care facility, and
other long-term care facilities throughout the Province.
We need
to continue to do these kinds of things for the residents of Newfoundland and
Labrador. That is something that
this government, Mr. Speaker, is committed to.
Mr.
Speaker, we have implemented many programs to put money back in the pockets of
seniors including a number of programs like the Low Income Seniors' Benefits,
the Affordable Housing Program, partner-managed housing, the Provincial Home
Repair Program, and the Residential Energy Efficiency Program.
I will give you an example of one in Corner Brook down on West Street and
Park Street; the partnership that the federal government and provincial
government made with the United Church in Corner Brook to open up housing units
on Park Street and West Street in Corner Brook in the United Church.
Actually it was in the old gymnasium attached to the United Church.
We need
to look for and search out more partners that could do that in our communities,
right throughout Newfoundland and Labrador, Mr. Speaker.
I want to say to the residents of Humber West that there are a number of
people who are advocating for more of these throughout the Province.
Last week, I sat down with a number of advocates in Corner Brook and the
Corner Brook area just to sit and listen to about how we can partner, how
government can partner with other organizations, not only in Corner Brook but
also throughout the Province.
That is
what this debate is about here on the floor of the House today, Mr. Speaker.
We have reduced fees for any adult over the age of sixty-five on drivers'
licences and vehicle registration fees, fees for fishing, hunting, camping, and
woodcutting. I think this is one we
should be very proud of – through the Newfoundland and Labrador Prescription
Drug Program 65Plus Plan, no senior using this plan pays more than $6 for
prescriptions for covered medications.
When we
look at housing, Mr. Speaker, it is not only the building in which someone
lives. I know it is critical, but
when we look at monies the seniors have and affordable housing, it is all about
the package of money that they have and what money they can keep and retain.
We all
know the challenges. Every single
one of us here knows the challenges of the monies that seniors have and some of
them with the lack of money that they have for housing.
These programs that we have implemented over the last number of years are
a part of that package, to be able to put more money back into the hands of
seniors into their pockets, whether it is to be used to pay their heat and light
bill, or whether it is to be used for extra food on their table and those kinds
of things. We are all sympathetic
and empathetic – more than sympathetic, empathetic to all these kinds of things.
That is
what this government has been doing over the last little while, Mr. Speaker.
It does me proud as a Member of the House of Assembly for Humber West, as
all members of this House, when you get a call from a senior and you are able to
help them out with an application or with a program, whether it is the
provincial Home Repair Program or the Residential Energy Efficiency Program.
That is important that we as MHAs are able to do that for the seniors who
are in our districts.
I take
great pride when I am able to do that, and find out, when I get a call from a
senior two or three months down the road, and they are telling me they have
received some funding for new shingles on their roof, or for new siding, or for
new windows, or to control the mould problem that they might have in a damp
basement. We have all taken good
pride in that in our districts. I
take great pride, Mr. Speaker, when I hear from my constituents in Humber West
as would others in this House who would do the same.
We have
also implemented a Healthy Aging Policy Framework that includes initiatives such
as the Ageless Campaign which promotes positive images of aging, and recognizes
the contribution of seniors in Newfoundland and Labrador.
The Ageless Campaign is based on the fact that ambition, involvement, and
participation in society can be lifelong activities, Mr. Speaker.
We all learn from our seniors.
There is
not a day goes by that we shall not learn something from our seniors, Mr.
Speaker. They have a wealth of
knowledge; they have a wealth of background.
They have a wealth of information to pass on to this generation and other
generations. As we age and we become
seniors, our ability to pass on our knowledge to the generation that is coming
behind us is absolutely critical. We
must never forget in many of our communities the valuable insight, the valuable
knowledge that our seniors have. I
can tell you one thing, I take great joy in listening to the seniors when I
speak to them in my district, because they have a lot of advice they can give
us, a lot of advice they can pass on to this generation.
Mr.
Speaker, the Newfoundland and Labrador Healthy Aging Research Program provides
funding for a wide variety of topics related to healthy aging that address the
priority research themes of caregiving, peer support, community capacity, crisis
intervention, rehabilitation, and dimension.
We do not need to go far into our communities to find out the depth and
the breadth of the involvement that our seniors have.
I
started off about eight or ten minutes ago listing off four or five people in
the community of Corner Brook and Humber West and Humber East who played a
significant role in how strong the community has become.
We could go throughout the entire Province of Newfoundland and Labrador
and find in our communities seniors who still serve on municipalities and who go
to the meetings, who still serve in their church, and still serve on hospital
boards and contribute on a daily basis.
That is the kind of support we need to give all of our seniors in our
Province.
I am
proud to say that this government has supported our seniors in Newfoundland and
Labrador for numerous years and will continue to support seniors in Newfoundland
and Labrador, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. GRANTER:
Mr. Speaker, the Age-Friendly
Newfoundland and Labrador Grants Program is designed to provide funding to
incorporated municipalities, Aboriginal governments, communities, and senior
organizations throughout the entire Province to support them in planning for an
aging population.
Mr.
Speaker, it is funny because I opened up an envelope just yesterday in my
office, in my new role in the Department of Health., and there was a magazine
that was passed on from the 50 Plus Federation, a newsletter from the
Newfoundland and Labrador Pensioners and Senior Citizens Federation.
They referenced – and I just pulled one
there – from seniors, an important part of the community.
This was from the president.
This was an article that was written in
The Georgian in Stephenville – seniors, an important part of the community.
The
gentleman Robert Rogers is a strong supporter of seniors sharing their talents
and skills with others. He stated
that seniors are an important part of the community and they need the
interaction. They need the support
of other partners, namely their town, their school, their parish, other
organizations and businesses, Mr. Speaker.
This is what we are debating here on the floor of the House today.
I do not think anyone from the other side of the House or this side of
the House would argue about anything that I just spoke to you about with regard
to the importance of seniors in our communities.
Mr.
Speaker, you talk a little bit about age-friendly grants, I just had a quick
look and it was also referenced in this magazine that came out in May month.
The Town of Torbay and Aquaforte, St. Jacques-Coomb's Cove Recreation
Committee, the Town of Cupids, the Town of Pasadena, Mount Pearl, Fogo Island,
Lewisporte, Trinity, Fortune, Kippens, and St. Anthony all received age-friendly
grants ranging from $5,000 to $10,000 in the last little while, 2013-2014.
In the
Age-Friendly Newfoundland and Labrador Seniors Organization Grants: the Canadian
Red Cross; New Visions 50 Plus Club in Trinity – Bonavista Bay; the Town of Bird
Cove; VON St. John's grants; the Curling Seniors 50 Plus Club in Curling, that
is in the Member for Bay of Islands district; Trepassey 50 Plus Friendship Club;
Three Rock Cove Recreation; the Labrador Friendship Centre; the Town of
Carmanville; Jimmy Pratt Memorial Outreach Centre; St. John's Native Friendship
Centre; South West Coast CN Pensioners Association; Exploits Community Centre;
the Town of Meadows and that is also in the Member for Bay of Islands district.
My
point, Mr. Speaker, is this, it is recognized that the valuable purpose of
seniors groups in all regions of the Province and the contributions that seniors
make, whether it is a small contribution that allows their seniors club to
operate, or allows a club to be able to go and pick up some seniors and bring
them out to a tea or bring them to a dinner, bring them to a supper, to be able
to get them out of their home. This
is what a housing program is all about.
It is not necessarily about the mortars, the bricks, the windows, and the
siding. Although that is very
important, that is very critical, it is also about the other programs that we
are providing for the people of Newfoundland and Labrador.
Yes,
someone would ask you the question – and someone would ask many of us the
question whether you are sitting on that side of the House or this side of the
House, they would say: It is not enough.
The answer to the question is: Right, it is not enough.
We need to continue to provide the services for the needs of our aging
population.
Just as
we built long-term care facilities in Corner Brook and in other parts of the
Province – a new one going to be opened up here in St. John's, a 400-plus bed
facility going to open up this coming fall – the answer to that is not enough.
Again, we will continue to provide those kinds of services and five years
down the road or three years down the road, we will have more beds available.
Five years down the road, there will be more homes available.
Ten years down, the road there will be more available.
That is what this is all about; it cannot all happen overnight.
As our
population ages, Mr. Speaker, there is more and more need.
There is going to be a greater strain on the public purse and on the
resources to provide this for our seniors.
Let me say to the people of Newfoundland and Labrador as I stand and
address this group today, the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador has shown
time and time and time again over the last number of years since we have been in
office that we have not forgotten our seniors.
Whether that is a reduction in fees, whether it is the home programs that
we have contributed, or building of these long-term care facilities, we will
continually stand by our seniors in the Province, Mr. Speaker.
Yes, we
will listen to what the issues are out there and we will move forward advancing
the cause of seniors in the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador.
I take that great pride in that, as I do my colleagues on this side of
the House, and I know other members of the other side of the House as well.
Mr.
Speaker, I only have a couple of minutes left.
We know that many older adults in our Province live in their homes in
their own communities. We recognize
that seniors need affordable, accessible, safe, and energy-efficient housing as
I have just referenced. By providing
these supports, we can preserve seniors' independence allowing them to age in
place as long as they are able to.
I speak
no further than my own mother who is a senior – I will not give her age to the
people of the Province – who is still able to live in her own home in Pool's
Island in the beautiful District of Bonavista North, who is able to still live
in her own house and care for herself and take care of her own needs.
That is what it is all about.
Mr.
Speaker, this year approximately 42,000 households throughout the Province will
receive a total of $40.4 million; through the Newfoundland and Labrador Low
Income Seniors' Benefit which will be received in October 2014; through
Newfoundland and Labrador Housing, 456 housing units specifically for seniors
have been constructed or renovated, options through the Affordable Housing
Program since 2006. Since 2009-2010,
$17.5 million has been allocated through Newfoundland and Labrador Housing for
partner-managed housing. The
upgraded housing project served more than 1,400 households, of which, 80 per
cent are for seniors.
Mr.
Speaker, I could go on and on – and I want to conclude – but my point is that I
am not disagreeing. We are not
disagreeing with what the Member for Bay of Islands said or the intent of this
motion on the floor today. We all
agree – and I would say that we are all committed.
Every member of this House is committed to supporting our seniors, and if
that is a continuation of more and better and modified housing where the people
stay in their own homes, or we provide the necessary beds for them at long-term
care facilities, when seniors get to that point, that is what I am committed to
do and stand on the floor of this House and get the support of this government,
and I know that this government supports seniors in the Province of Newfoundland
and Labrador, Mr. Speaker.
MR. SPEAKER (Littlejohn):
I remind the hon. member his time has expired.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for St.
John's Centre.
MS ROGERS:
Thank you very much, Mr.
Speaker.
I am
very happy to stand and speak to this amendment today.
I would like to first start off, Mr. Speaker, by saying this is not about
charity. This is not about charity
and taking care of our seniors. This
is about justice. This is about
respect. This is about fairness.
It is not about charity and taking care of our poor seniors.
People who are seniors today are people who, for the most part, have
worked hard all their lives, whether in the paid economy, or whether they have
been homemakers and raising children.
What is it like, what has happened that we have come to a point in our
communities – because we all hear the stories.
I have lots of stories to tell from constituents; a lot of us do.
A lot of us know how tough it is for many of our seniors in Newfoundland
and Labrador.
In
Newfoundland and Labrador, we all know that we have the fastest-growing
proportion of seniors in our population of anywhere else in the country.
Not only that, we also know that we have the highest proportion of
seniors who are in receipt of OAS and GIS – and GIS is a Guaranteed Income
Supplement – which means we have the highest proportion of seniors who are
basically living at the poverty line, and we know that poverty is one of the
most severe forms of violence.
Mr.
Speaker, poverty is injustice, and you do not ameliorate poverty by charity.
This is not about charity. It
is about social policy. It is about
developing social policy that is effective, that is about maximizing our
resources; it is about ensuring safety, and health and well-being.
Mr.
Speaker I attended a meeting that was facilitated by the Canadian Medical
Association of Canada and it was also facilitated by the Newfoundland and
Labrador Medical Association. The
theme of the meeting was: the social determinants of health.
One of the key areas that were identified as a social determinant of
health was adequate, safe, accessible, affordable housing for all citizens,
whether it was people with mental health issues, whether it was people with
children, whether it was working families, whether it was even high-income
earners. If you do not have a good
place to live, you simply cannot get on with life.
Again,
the Canadian Medical Association and the Newfoundland and Labrador Medical
Association identified one of the key social determinants to health is housing.
That is what we are talking about here today.
Again, we have the highest proportion of seniors in Newfoundland and
Labrador in receipt of OAS and GIS.
That means people who are living on $15,592 a year.
None of
us in this House have to face that reality.
If we have parents who are living on that minimal income, many of us are
able to help our parents because we are well paid, we all have roofs over our
head, and none of us are precariously housed, which is a term that is often used
by housing advocates. Precariously
housed means that your housing is not really stable, that you live with the
possibility of either losing your housing because of uncontrolled rent increases
or because you lose a spouse and, therefore, income is cut.
Many seniors are in that position, many seniors in Newfoundland and
Labrador.
Mr.
Speaker, what does it mean in this day and age, and our incredible – as the
Premier, when he was Minister of Finance, talked about the golden age that we
are in. What does it mean when we
have seniors who have worked all their lives, again, whether in the paid economy
or not in the paid economy, and then they live what is supposed to be their
golden years in fear of poverty and in fear of losing their housing, or in fear
of not being to stay where they are or in fear of not being able to move on if
moving on is what they have to do?
What
does it mean to live your golden years, your supposed golden years, after
working all your life, to be living on less than minimum wage?
Because that is what is happening with a lot of seniors in Newfoundland
and Labrador.
That is
what this discussion is about. This
discussion is about looking at ways to address those issues.
Again, we are not looking at charity, we are not looking at – the
government has done some great initiatives, absolutely, but what we have is a
piecemeal approach. Also, we have a
whole piecemeal approach to the whole issue of housing.
There is not a comprehensive, overall housing strategy or housing policy
in this Province. There never has
been. That is why we find ourselves
in this particular crisis.
Mr.
Speaker, there are other provinces in the country that do not have this crisis
because they do have overall strategies and policies that look at housing, that
incorporate issues like taxation, issues like land use, issues like using
buildings that belong to government, public buildings that can be reconverted to
other uses. It is also about looking
at partnerships with the private and the public sector to look at – because what
is being built right now in Newfoundland and Labrador, we all see that, we see
it in the paper, we see it on the Internet, condos that start at a minimum of
$320,000 a year.
So many
seniors want to move to condos but they cannot afford to go to condos because
their houses, which may be older, are not worth that much.
They cannot sell them for that much.
Many of them have a low pension, or are on OAS or GIS.
They cannot afford a mortgage on a $325,000 condominium, then to pay the
condo fees which may be anywhere from $300 to $500 extra a month.
It is out of the reach of most seniors here in Newfoundland and Labrador.
We do
have some seniors who are comfortable, who are fine, their housing is in place
and they are going to be okay. That
is great. Nobody, particularly in
their golden years, Mr. Speaker, should be living with that kind of fear over
their head. How did we get to this
point? I would say how we got to
this point is because we have not had a comprehensive housing strategy, we have
not had a comprehensive housing policy.
Again,
that is what this is about. We need
it in terms of all housing here in the Province, but particularly now what we
are looking at is the issue of a housing strategy for seniors.
It is really good.
The
other thing, Mr. Speaker, is that we have experts in this area.
We have experts probably here in this House.
We have experts in our public service.
We have experts in our communities who are housing advocates, but also
seniors. Seniors know what solutions
they want and what they need in their own lives.
There
has been some very interesting work that has been done, and not to minimize it,
Mr. Speaker. We know the solutions
to the housing needs of seniors are not simple, they are complex.
They really, really are complex.
Even more reason why we must have an effective housing strategy that
addresses these very complex issues because we cannot leave it to the free
market alone. We cannot leave it to
chance alone.
It is
not enough to have a bunch of programs that provide some good support.
Basically, it is a piecemeal approach.
It is not a comprehensive answer.
We know how important it is to have strategy, policy, and action plans
that actually do something concrete that will tackle the challenges most seniors
face here in our Province; that a lot of people face in terms of the housing
crisis that faces all of us here in our Province.
There
was a great piece of work that was undertaken.
The piece of work is called Seniors' Housing: Challenges, Issues, and
Possible Solutions for Atlantic Canada.
It was done by the Atlantic Seniors Housing Research Alliance.
What
they did is they had a number of focus groups with seniors, housing advocates,
health care professionals throughout Atlantic Canada.
One of the key findings they found, Mr. Speaker, is that for the most
part seniors want to stay in their own homes.
Now that
is a bit broad: in their own homes. It
might be the home they have lived in as an adult; it might be a rental unit they
are currently in; it might be a new house or a seniors' cottage that they want
to buy; but, for the most part, seniors want to be able to age in place.
I bet you if we pooled most of the people here in this House, most of us
would want to be able to do that.
There
are programs and supports that are needed in order for people to be able to age
in place, and to be able to age in place safely and affordably.
I think that is what we are talking about.
We are talking about how to ensure that seniors who have a right to
self-determination, who have a right to independence, have the support
mechanisms in place so they can age in place.
Mr.
Speaker, there are seniors here in this House of Assembly, and we know the
Municipal Councils of Newfoundland and Labrador identified housing as one of the
key issues. They said we are in a
housing crisis, and they could see it.
The problem we have with housing right now did not happen overnight.
We could see – we all have the statistics.
Every government department have the statistics in terms of our aging
demographic. It is not like all of a
sudden there is a forest fire or all of a sudden there is a flood, we could see
this coming.
The
other thing, Mr. Speaker, is that it is rapidly increasing the proportion of
seniors in our Province. This is not
going to go away and it is not going to get better on its own.
It is only going to get worse unless we do have a comprehensive strategy
that has specific solutions that address the challenges we have.
This
study was very, very interesting, Mr. Speaker.
It was a comprehensive study that was done throughout Atlantic Canada.
There were a number of universities involved.
What they did is they consulted seniors.
Here is
what they say on page 10 – and I would really recommend that every member in
this House read this document. It is
available online and it is from the Atlantic Seniors Housing Research Alliance,
ASHRA. If you Google ASHRA you can
get this report online. It is very
readable and the information is so clear.
They have identified the challenges and they have also proposed some
solutions, or at least some direction for us all to go in to consider for
solutions. This problem is not going
to go away. Unless we have direct
intervention, it is only going to get worse.
They
said, “Studies on seniors' housing consistently report that seniors prefer to
remain in their own homes for as long as possible.”
What is it that we need in a housing strategy to make that possible?
How many
of us have had members of our own families, even perhaps some of our own
parents, who have had to be forced out of their homes because the support
mechanisms that are needed for them to be able to age in place are not there?
Whether that the house is too big and there are two stories or there are
three stories, so it is about the actual physical accommodation of the housing,
or because they need home care, or they need perhaps not medical home care but
some kind of care, assistance, whether it be cutting the grass, housework or
snow shoveling – there are effective economical solutions to be able to help our
seniors age in place. We know it is
a lower cost option than institutionalizing everyone.
Particularly, because this is about justice, it is not about charity.
The
other thing they said is, “Major barriers to aging in place include the
inability to maintain property, followed by inadequate finances, illness, the
need for safety and security, inadequate family support, and transportation
access issues.” Boy, that is a big
one. That is a real big one, seniors
being able to get to the grocery store or get to their doctor's appointment.
Mr.
Speaker, I see that my time is almost up.
There is a wonderful organization in the Province called the Religious
Social Action Coalition on justice.
They have identified this as a really important issue.
Again it is not about charity, it is not about what are we going to do
for our seniors. It is about
justice, it is about fairness. It is
absolutely crucial, that this Province have an identified policy and strategy
similar to what BC does, and one with an action plan, and with a plan as to when
this will be completed. It is not
enough just to say that we are going to do it.
MR. SPEAKER (Verge):
I remind the hon. member
her speaking time has expired.
MS ROGERS:
Thank you very much, Mr.
Speaker.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. DAVIS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
It is a
little quieter here now than it was during Question Period today.
I have had a chance to catch my breath.
I appreciate the opportunity to speak on this very important motion
brought forward by the Opposition.
I think
it is an important topic of discussion.
I can tell you as the Minister of Health and Community Services and
Minister Responsible for Aging and Seniors, it is one that I discuss on a daily
basis, not only in my office but with constituents and Newfoundlanders and
Labradorians as I meet them when I am out and about, or in meetings in my
office, or other opportunities to meet and talk to people.
Mr.
Speaker, our government's support for seniors in Newfoundland and Labrador,
support for healthy aging and providing necessary services and programs for our
aging population, has been a top priority for us as a government.
It has been an important priority for us in government.
One of the key areas that we have focused on is long-term care and
community support services.
Mr.
Speaker, while many people think that when you speak of long-term care – and I
have talked about it here in the House in this way as well – that we are talking
about facilities with nursing care, with support staff and the wraparound
services with them, but that is not always the case.
When we talk about long-term care there are other services, programs and
so on that are delivered. Our vision
for long-term care and community support services is to keep people in their own
homes or as close to their own home as possible.
We know
that for many people they do want to live independently.
As we age and we mature – and we are all getting there.
Everybody is aging and we are all getting there.
We know that people who age, and as they get there, they want to maintain
their independence for as long as they can.
They want to remain in their own homes for as long as they can.
Sometimes that means the home where they sometimes were raised
themselves, or sometimes where they raised their own families – they spent a
significant amount of their own lives in a home, their own home, and own
community and they want to remain there.
Our focus as well is to find ways and develop programs and opportunities
for that to take place.
Mr.
Speaker, in June 2012, our government released a long-term care strategy
entitled: Close to Home. It is a
ten-year vision and guide to help transform delivery of long-term care and
services in Newfoundland and Labrador.
The strategy, Close to Home, took a very comprehensive look at how the
delivery of services takes place, where they are provided, and how we do our
best to meet the needs of residents while ensuring they receive top-quality
health care. That is what it is
about; it is about providing best-quality health care to as many people as
possible in all parts of the Province.
Every
year there are more than 20,000 Newfoundlanders and Labradorians who avail of
long-term care and community support services programs throughout the Province –
that is 20,000. This year, nearly
$700 million will be invested in these services.
That is a significant investment, Mr. Speaker.
It is a significant investment for us as a Province and us for a
government, but it is an important investment to make.
Through
our long-term care programs, we subsidize 8,300 home support program clients,
2,800 long-term care clients, and 2,300 personal care home clients annually.
Since the launch of the strategy, Close to Home, in 2012, we have
implemented several new initiatives that have a keen focus on providing supports
to help people stay in their own communities.
The focus of the strategy, Close to Home, is to keep people
close to home. As I said, it is a
ten-year strategy. When you have a
ten-year strategy what that means is over the next ten-years we are going to
roll out and develop the strategies, develop the plans, make the investments so
that we make those improvements over a ten-year period.
You cannot go from here to here overnight.
You have work your way through a system, through investments, development
of programs and infrastructure, and services over a period of time.
That is what we are doing. We
are doing that. We are following
that on this ten-year plan, this ten-year commitment.
Since we launched it we have had several new initiatives, and I am going
to talk about some of those new initiatives this afternoon.
I want to talk first about the Age-Friendly Newfoundland
and Labrador Transportation Pilot Project.
That is a three-year pilot project.
We are investing $1.3 million in this pilot project, which is increasing
access for older adults as
well as individuals who have mobility challenges, to provide to them an
affordable and reliable transportation opportunity.
These include transportation to meet the activities of daily living,
including medical appointments, including shopping, socialization, and the type
of day-to-day activities that older adults, seniors, and people with mobility
challenges, quite often face and quite often need.
Sometimes it is a challenge for people to be able to travel and attend
appointments and functions then to their needs.
It is more difficult and challenging for some than it is others, and
quite often that is older adults and people with mobility challenges.
There
were five groups selected to receive funding through this $1.3 million
three-year initiative: the Canadian Red Cross is a participant; the St. John's
Transportation Commission, commonly known as Metrobus; the Bay St. George Area
Development Association; the Town of Springdale is receiving funding and
participating; and also, the Town of Clarenville.
Providing people with affordable opportunities to continue their
independence as part of their own community, within their community, is
essential to helping them stay in their own homes or stay close to home.
It goes along with that.
We know
the value of an affordable, clean, and quality home, a place to live, keeping
people close to their own home where they want to be, where they want to live as
independent as possible. Providing
this transportation initiative, this pilot project, is going to be a great
benefit to them. We look forward to
the outcomes of that pilot project.
Just to
add to that, Mr. Speaker, a pilot project is an opportunity to invest in a
program, to develop a framework for a program, to roll it out in different areas
as we are doing here, and then to evaluate it.
Was it a good program, was it beneficial?
Look at the benefits received.
You have to look at the cost associated with that service and then
measure that against the benefits that are received.
As you
do it as a pilot project, it gives you an opportunity to run the project and to
make amendments to the pilot. You
may envision a certain framework and a certain product or a certain service.
You know that during a pilot project when you actually roll out the
program and it actually takes place, sometimes you have to make amendments to
what seemed like a good idea and a good plan.
Sometimes you have to modify and amend those plans.
That is what pilot projects allow you to do.
Mr.
Speaker, as well, under the strategy there is the Enhanced Care in Personal Care
Homes Pilot Project. This is one
that was talked about in the House by the Leader of the NDP a couple of weeks
ago. It is a $1.5 million pilot
project. It is an eighteen month
pilot project that will help to address the growing demands for safe, quality
living arrangements and accommodations for older adults by allowing personal
care homes to admit clients who require a higher level of care.
Personal
care homes are a very important part of providing living arrangements for
seniors. This project is going to
provide an opportunity to evaluate the potential for personal care homes, and to
enhance and expand their role in the provision of seniors care.
There are three personal care homes in the Province that are
participating in this pilot project: one is Callingwood Downs Senior Complex in
Clarke's Beach, The Golden Years Estate in Gander, and also Mountain View House
in Meadows. I know we have talked
about the Member for Bay of Islands, but that is also in his district, the
Mountain View House in Meadows.
Those are the three that are participating in this pilot.
Each
home is permitted to admit up to eight clients who require an increased level of
care. The project will have an
evaluation component again that will examine the feasibility, the
appropriateness of it, and the resident outcomes in terms of safety, quality of
life, the overall suitability of the program, and how it impacts on people's
lives.
Personal
care homes provide Level I and Level II throughout Newfoundland and Labrador.
That is what they do throughout the Province is they provide Level I and
Level II. Long-term care homes
provide Level III and Level IV. This
enhanced care pilot project is going to provide for what we have termed as Level
II-plus, which is more than Level II reaching on Level III clients in personal
care homes who need some nursing care, which is being provided onsite by a
licensed practical nurse supported by a community care nurse.
I know I
have brought this up many times in the House now – because I have heard it from
people – that the NDP said we are going to use personal care homes now for Level
IV. We are not doing that, Mr.
Speaker. This pilot project is for
Level II-plus, people who are reaching Level II and approaching Level III
status. The higher the level, the
higher level of care is required for people.
It is being seen as a little bit higher than Level II, not quite into
Level III, bordering close to Level III, but for Level II clients.
It is a pilot project to keep people closer to their own home.
That is the goal, to keep people closer to their own home, keep closer to
their family, and keep close to the community and the area that is important to
them.
Mr.
Speaker, a community rapid response team pilot project is another important
project. We are investing $3.1
million for a two-year pilot project, launching this year, for four community
rapid response teams in the Province.
They will be located in Grand Falls-Windsor, in Corner Brook, and there
will be two in the Northeast Avalon and greater St. John's area.
These teams will be comprised of health professionals who will assess
patients at emergency departments to determine if they are medically stable
patients that can return home safely with an enhanced community-based service,
an enhanced community, at-home level of care, thereby avoiding an admission to
hospital.
Mr.
Speaker, this is another very interesting program.
It is another very good program.
It will be launching this year.
Members opposite have talked about this and it was talked about today,
how many people are in acute care beds who should be in long-term care homes or,
with extra supports and services, can return home and do not need to be
occupying acute care beds.
The
primary target group for this initiative is seniors, but the service will also
be available to adults who are in an emergency room and a decision has to be
made, do they need to be admitted or is there a higher level of care available
through the community. This is what
this program will target: Clients utilizing the enhanced follow-ups with
transition to existing community support programs as their condition improves.
So, as
the client's condition improves, their health improves then they can transition
to our existing community programs that exist in communities throughout the
Province currently. This initiative
will provide clients with an opportunity to recuperate and receive effective and
efficient care in their own homes, while improving emergency room and acute care
in-patient bed utilization. We have
heard about that.
We have
heard about where we have people in emergency room beds, we have people in acute
care beds, and the opportunity for long-term care does not exist, or the
question remains: Is there another option?
This is the other option that we are running as a pilot project, a
community rapid response pilot project.
It is a $3.1 million, two-year project, which will give us an opportunity
to evaluate and assess: Is this a good project?
Can this provide a better quality care for people, not just seniors but
in particular seniors, and will this provide a better opportunity for them?
The
other one, Mr. Speaker, I want to talk about very quickly, because I know my
time is running out, is the paid family caregiver option.
This is a new home support option.
It began this past March, providing seniors and adults with disabilities
an increased choice when it comes to home care.
It is an $8.2 million investment.
We are initially allowing up to 250 subsidies for seniors and adults with
disabilities who are new to the home support system, and they will have the
option of paying family members for home care.
This is
not to replace, Mr. Speaker, what a spouse or common-law partner would be
expected to do in a natural caregiver role.
This is the opportunity whereby a person – it will provide an option to
expand the definition of family members to allow them to provide care, which
would include parents and children, grandparents, grandchildren, sibling and
relatives residing in the same home.
It is offering additional opportunities to people who can receive home support
in another way, and again to keep them in their homes longer.
Mr.
Speaker, that is what the goal of some of these projects are, and I have just
talked on some of these. The members
opposite quite often will ask: What are you doing about long-term care?
What are you doing for seniors?
This is just a sample of some of the new programs we are rolling out.
We have a strategy in place; we have a ten-year strategy.
We are investing millions of dollars in the best interests of seniors,
with the goal of keeping them close to home, providing those services and
supports to them in their own homes, in their own communities, with the support
of their families around them. We
think this is the right direction because people want to live independently and
as long as they can in their own homes.
Thank
you, Mr. Speaker, for an opportunity to speak this afternoon on this private
member's resolution.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for St.
John's South.
MR. OSBORNE:
Mr. Speaker, just briefly, I
wanted to ensure that my colleague would not be interrupted; I am going to give
leave for him to use some of my time.
We have the agreement from the House Leader on the other side as well.
Thank
you, Mr. Speaker.
MR. SPEAKER:
The member is asking for
leave to not interrupt the Member for Torngat Mountains at 4:45 p.m., but to
extend his time.
By
leave?
AN HON. MEMBER:
Leave.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for
Torngat Mountains.
MR. EDMUNDS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I thank
the members for granting leave. I
know my time will be short as it is, but it is certainly a pleasure to rise and
speak to the private member's resolution put forward by my colleagues for St.
John's South and Bay of Islands.
Mr.
Speaker, I listened to many of the presenters and I guess the one thing that we
do have in common in all forty-eight districts in the Province are issues that
arise around the seniors of our Province.
These are the people who laid the foundation of which we are today.
That number will increase as we all get a little bit older.
If you
go back to some comparisons around the baby boom time and you look at the ratio
of enrolment in schools as an indicator, in the 1970s we had up to 13,000
students entering Kindergarten a year.
In 2012 it was less than 5,000.
The number of people who are going to get older is going to be
significantly higher to the point where – as of now, Mr. Speaker, one in six
people in our Province are seniors, and that number will get a lot higher to a
point where in just over ten years it is expected that one in four will be
seniors. Certainly, that will put
extra strain on the resources we do have.
I did
listen to the Member for Port au Port talk about the services that are in place
now, and I did listen to the minister talk about some of the initiatives that
are coming. Certainly it is
something to be appreciated, as we all get issues from seniors in our own
districts.
I have
to take a little bit of time, Mr. Speaker, to refer to the district I represent
in Torngat Mountains and some of the initiatives that are in place there and
some that are lacking. Now, I know
the Nunatsiavut Government has a lot of programs in place that help out our
seniors.
I heard
the minister talk about the need to keep seniors in their own homes, which is
where they want to be, and we would all like to do that, Mr. Speaker.
He also said as close to home as possible.
A long-time wish for elders in my district is to have a seniors' home or
a long-term care facility in Nunatsiavut.
It is an issue that I think could be brought forward to this government,
maybe in co-operation with the Nunatsiavut Government.
Right
now we have approximately 85,000 seniors in our Province, a significant number.
In terms of resources, we have 4,300 beds in our personal care homes and
3,100 long-term care beds. There is
room for improvement.
I note
in the Budget there was an announcement for an extension to the long-term care
facility in Goose Bay. I certainly
look forward to that, but the reality is that there will still be more people
looking for long-term care than what is coming.
That will come progressively as our population ages.
Right on
the private member's resolution itself, it states that we have the highest
median age in Canada. Given the
numbers coming from the baby boom, for example, this age is going to get higher.
It will be something that will force more attention on the resources we
have.
I
listened to the Member for Port au Port – I will be brief, I am winding down –
when he submitted the amendment, Mr. Speaker, and I am hopeful that this
government will support this private member's resolution.
By putting in an amendment and having the new resolution stating,
“THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED the House of Assembly urge government to develop a
comprehensive housing strategy for seniors incorporating its existing housing
initiatives from which seniors are benefitting.”
One
conclusion I can draw from this is that by implementing this amendment into this
private member's resolution, the government admits that housing initiatives are
not working. It is clear and simple.
With
that, I look forward to total support from this House on this private member's
resolution with the amendment, and I look forward to a housing strategy for
seniors.
Thank
you.
MR. SPEAKER (Wiseman):
The hon. Member for St.
John's South.
MR. OSBORNE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr.
Speaker, I want to speak just briefly on the amendment for a moment.
We are going to support the amendment, but it is a little disappointing
that on such an important issue we would play a little bit of politics by using
the words “…includes several housing initiatives…” and “…incorporating its
existing housing initiatives from which seniors are benefitting.”
When I
introduced this private member's resolution, nobody beat government up.
We recognize there are some strategies in place that are assisting
seniors and benefiting seniors, nobody is disputing that.
The purpose of this private member's resolution, Mr. Speaker, is the fact
that we have an aging seniors' population, a rapidly aging seniors' population.
That goes from the fact that just a few years ago only one in ten of our
population was a senior. Today, it
is one in six of our population is a senior.
By 2025, it will be one in four people from Newfoundland and Labrador
will be seniors. So we do need to
develop strategies.
Nobody
is saying that government has not done anything, but the reality is there are
still a lot of seniors who are not benefiting from the strategies that
government have in place. There are
still a lot of seniors who are taking up acute care beds in hospitals waiting
for long-term care beds. There is
still a waiting list to get into long-term care homes.
There are still senior citizens who are living in their own homes, but
cannot afford to heat or maintain their own homes.
There are senior citizens, Mr. Speaker, who are asking for help.
We
realize there is only so much money in the provincial Budget, so we are not
beating government up by putting this private member's resolution forward today.
We are saying as our population is aging and there is going to be a
greater percentage of our population who are going to be considered senior
citizens in the years to come.
The
challenges – because people are getting married later in life, they are having
children later in life. Therefore
they have children to look after as well as aging parents.
They have careers, whereas many years ago there was only one member of a
household generally speaking who worked and one member who stayed home to look
after the home and family. That is
different today. The demographics
and the population are different today.
The demands on people are different today than they were decades ago.
The
reality is, Mr. Speaker, we have an aging population and there are fewer
children. With greater demands those
children of the aging seniors have children to look after.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MR. OSBORNE:
They have careers.
Their demands are different today than they were years ago.
The reality again is the fact that our population is aging at a very
rapid rate in this Province. Our
population of seniors is higher in this – or the ratio is higher in this
Province than in any other Province.
What we
are asking for here, Mr. Speaker, are creative strategies taking into account
the changing demographics, the aging population.
Taking into account the programs that government currently have in place,
and taking into account that they are still not reaching every senior and they
are still not solving all of the problems looking forward and making strategic
changes and strategic improvements to a strategy, incorporating all of the
policies that government currently have in place, incorporating policies that
are not yet in place, looking at being creative.
I will
just give a couple of examples – and I am not saying these are necessarily the
best thing here or that we can use a cookie-cutter approach.
If you look at in the Netherlands, for example, there is a self-contained
village in the Netherlands. The cost
of that was $24 million to build. It
helps 152 residents. It was a
project that was put in place in the Netherlands, Mr. Speaker.
The
cost is $158,000 per resident to build that.
The way it works, Mr. Speaker, residents are free to
roam and move about the village.
They are unaware that many of their neighbours are actually staff.
By comparison, the new St. John's long-term care facility here in St.
John's was $150 million to build and it helps 460 residents.
It is a cost of $327,000 per resident to build versus the $158,000 per
resident to build a village in the Netherlands.
Obviously, we would need to look at what the Netherlands are doing,
whether or not that works here, and whether or not we can do similar things
here.
You look at Deep River in Ontario where a small
community there, paramedics have begun checking on select seniors once a week.
During those visits, paramedics perform basic health checks which can
include making sure that the clients are eating properly and helping them
complete their exercise regimes.
They found that because of that program, they have cut 911 calls in half.
So, there are creative ways that we can look at putting a seniors'
strategy together, incorporating what is currently in place with new strategies,
with new ideas.
Mr. Speaker, you look at here in Canada, in British
Columbia seniors are included within government's Housing Matters strategy.
As opposed to having a housing strategy which helps low income, which
helps people of all ages, including seniors, we need to look at strategies
specifically focused on seniors. In
Manitoba, they have Aging in Place as a strategy for seniors.
It was announced in January of 2006.
It predates the more comprehensive Manitoba long-term housing strategy
called HOMEworks!, which came out in 2009.
New Brunswick: They have launched their Home First
initiative, a three-year strategy which will help seniors remain in their homes
and communities as long as possible.
There is information about that strategy which can be found on the Web site as
well. Saskatchewan: There is a
strategy there for seniors and it targets senior demographics within the larger
housing strategy. Nova Scotia: A
general housing strategy released last year by the Department of Community
Services includes housing for seniors and vulnerable adults as one of their five
key elements.
I did not have time to research all of these strategies
to look at how they affect seniors, but we do have staff within the Department
of Health and Community Services and other departments who have the ability to
look at housing strategies across the country and in other areas of the world
and pick out the best parts of those strategies to put towards a focused
seniors' housing strategy in this Province.
Mr. Speaker, Housing Nova Scotia lists three programs
for seniors: the Home Adaptations for Seniors, Senior Citizens Assistance
Program, and Public Housing for Seniors, just to give an example.
Again, we have an aging population in this Province.
Nobody is saying government is doing nothing for seniors in this
Province. That is not what we said
on this side of the House at all, but we are saying that there are a number of
seniors in this Province that the programs that government currently have in
place are not reaching those seniors.
There are still many seniors in this Province who go home to cold homes
and empty fridges, Mr. Speaker. They
do not have the home support networks.
They do not have the supportive systems in place to ensure that they stay
in their homes longer.
If we can accomplish that, as just one chapter of a
comprehensive seniors' strategy, if we can accomplish allowing seniors to stay
in their own homes longer, it will certainly save government a tremendous amount
of money by keeping people in their own homes longer and not requiring the
private care homes, personal care homes, long-term care homes, or assisted
living.
We need to look at all of that as part of a
comprehensive strategy. We need to
ensure that we are ready for the aging population and the fact that our
population is aging very rapidly. We
need to put together a comprehensive home care strategy to ensure that we look
at all of this, and incorporate, as I said, what government currently has in
place with the best practices in other jurisdictions.
Mr. Speaker, with that, I know that the clock is
ticking down and we need to vote on this private member's resolution.
I thank all members for participating in
debate, the members who have an open mind on looking at a comprehensive seniors'
strategy for the people of the Province.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR.
SPEAKER:
There has been an amendment on the floor.
We will first vote on the amendment.
All those in favour of the amendment, ‘aye'.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Aye.
MR.
SPEAKER:
All
those against, ‘nay'.
Carried.
On motion, amendment carried.
MR.
SPEAKER:
All
those in favour of the motion, as amended, ‘aye'.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Aye.
MR.
SPEAKER:
All
those against the motion, as amended, ‘nay'.
Carried.
Motion, as amended, carried.
MR.
SPEAKER:
This House stands adjourned until tomorrow, Thursday, at 1:30 p.m.